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Old 04-13-2016, 12:14 PM   #71
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We need a license...why?


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Ummm....for fishing, of course.


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Old 04-13-2016, 01:56 PM   #72
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I'm guessing one still needs a "permit" to camp on Gov't land, so I'm assuming that's what Ray is talking about.


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Old 04-13-2016, 02:00 PM   #73
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I'm guessing one still needs a "permit" to camp on Gov't land, so I'm assuming that's what Ray is talking about.


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State parks permits. No permit needed for National Forest or BLM land.
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Old 04-13-2016, 08:28 PM   #74
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[QUOTE=Arcticfox;1776310]I'm guessing one still needs a "permit" to camp on Gov't land, so I'm assuming that's what Ray is talking about.
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These are the 'permits' needed if you are standing next to a stream or lake and holding a fishing pole when a Game Warden asks you for your... license.

At an established Forest Service campsite, we would need to pay up if it is a 'fee area'. Some with restroom pit and water would be, most likely.

It is like the film the Treasure of the Sierra Madre:

"Badges?... I don't have to show you any stinking badges."

Try that one with a Wyoming Game and Fish warden... and they will show you 'their stinking badges' with the county judge adding up the total number of inches the trout may measure.

Anyone wanting to fish... pay for the license. My Dad in the 1950's thought he could pull it off in northwestern Montana without a license. He worked for the Montana Forest Service at the time in the back woods. Of course, it was the only time he and a Game and Fish warden discovered the Forest was a bit too small that day for both of them. He did not get to keep the fish, either.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:56 PM   #75
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Leadville to Independence Pass to Aspen, CO and return

I am working behind the scenes on feedback to find a variety of Colorado High Country Base Camp sites that offer everyone an opportunity to experience.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/07/04...pass.colorado/

Or... Google: 'Independence Pass a road worth traveling'
This is one of my proposed Colorado High Country Adventure experiences. No... you will not be pulling your trailer along US24 and CO82 for those 39 miles. The tow vehicle experience would be satisfactory for most, if not all, on this one part of the... Adventure.

By misfortune I DID tow our 2006 23 foot Safari from Aspen's city limits to Independence Pass in 2010 to Leadville, Colorado. As you drive east out of the edge of Aspen the road begins to narrow. At that moment there is no turn around, turns off or any option other than to pass the large sign that says 'NO TRAILERS". Or something to that point, maybe with some other warnings. At that point... you cannot turn off or around. You are going to Independence Pass, which is marked with a very large sign explaining you are at 12,095 feet elevation and the Continental Divide.

This road is blasted out of the side of a vertical cliff face, as the 'Independence Pass a road worth traveling' explains. It is paved with asphalt. It is almost two lanes wide at most, but not all of the route. The guard rail is strong enough to keep a moped back onto the pavement and some spots are 1.25 lanes wide... but it is worth every heart beat, even if the heart beat is a bit rapid.

I did it towing a 23 foot trailer without incident and lucky for us... traffic was light the moment we made this unplanned TRUE 'Adventure'. The video photo is NOT the road blasted into the side of the mountain part of the trip...it is the recovering your self control zone.

I needed two votes to get this part of the Adventure marked with several X's. The other vote arrived seconds ago... looks like Independence Pass will be the Colorado HIGHest Country portion of this Adventure and down hill from there.

For those members not wanting to experience the experience... there are some ice cream salons in Leadville, where you can sit on the edge of your seat.
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Old 05-24-2016, 09:29 PM   #76
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2017... August 14 to August 23

Anyone who wants to be among the 'Trailer's in Waiting' list need to go back to Post #20 and send me the information requested to boondockingairstream@gmail.com

From previous experience with these Adventures, there tends to be a steep cancellation period within six weeks of the date of departure for a number of reasons.

A reason is not required to cancel. Just allow enough time for someone else to be able to plan to attend is all I ask. Others need time to make plans, as well.

The current list has 20 members as of today. The dates would be August 14 (Sunday) to August 23 (Wednesday), 2017. Of course, the weekend before will have a location to gather and the August 23 is just a convenient date, that YOU can adjust to fit your schedule. Maybe 15 days is possible, as ten was just convenient for planning. You need not attend all of the Base Camps or Off the Grid sites... We will be working within ONE section of Colorado. Not the entire State.

2017, NOT this year... 2016.

There is no longer a June 2016 to check out Off the Grid and Base Campsites as it is easier if I do it myself. My selection considerations may vary from those wanting to come along for the experience and to accommodate as many as can be managed with some... comfort and convenience.

The original intent was TEN members. The more Adventure members requires different sites that can fit more who actually end up attending.

I will be actively working on this Adventure this Summer for sites that will have a little of everything to experience in High Country Colorado.
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Colorado Mountain Passes... experience needed

I have had private discussions as to the experience required to safely navigate the numerous Rocky Mountains Passes towing a trailer. There is a VERY HIGH RISK factor for those not experienced in using the tow vehicle's transmission and coordinating the braking systems of both to maintain control.

I am seriously considering NOT to proceed with this Adventure from experiences in the mountains this month for the Boondocking Greenhorns.

When an Itinerary is developed and the Passes that are required to gain access, more will be considered as to the viability of traveling the High Country towing over a two week period.

Are there any current members that have indicated an interest that HAVE or HAVE NOT experienced steep grades and feel COMFORTABLE or not, traveling under these conditions?
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:31 AM   #78
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I've experienced steep grades, tho they're not my favorite...nor are sheer drop offs near which I must drive.

How high into the High Country must we go...i.e. can it be Moderately High Country, and still a great adventure?


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Yeah, Ray, like maybe camping at "lower elevations"...... say...6,000 ft? I can manage on steep grades with "Goliath", but, like Maggie, sheer drop offs into an unseen abyss are not my favorite. Did you see what was left of that guardrail on Monarch pass? I wonder if it actually prevented someone taking flight? Many of those passes do not even have a guard rail. I found myself looking closely at the crumbling roadway edges and hugging the center lane. YIKES! I love the mountains for their awesome beauty, but, can manage fine without the sheer terror of driving some....like the San Juan Skyway/hwy 550!
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2017 Colorado High Country is Cancelled

After reviewing the possible options for access into the Colorado High Country, I am 'officially cancelling' this Adventure. All involve steep Mountain Pass access and high elevations that may not suit everyone at each campsite I have studied.

This year and previous years, Nancy and I have crossed the major Passes from the Front Range into the Colorado Rockies and South and Middle Parks. There is a risk to those not familiar traveling these steep grades UP, but the danger is the inexperience of how to control their speed going DOWN.

It is a responsibility which I am unable to train or explain through words on a Forum for those who may want to attempt, but the risk remains strong.

It is with deep regrets that I retreat from the Forum and minimize my inserting of thoughts in what I love the most... Boondocking and the brave few who share this activity.
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Old 06-20-2016, 05:05 PM   #81
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You've contributed a lot here, Ray, and lit a fire among Airstreamers about boondocking.

We've seen evidence of that all over these Forums.

I hope you come back here when you're ready.


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Ray, I will be always grateful for all you have taught this fledgling greenhorn and many others. I learned from you, not only on the trip, but, from so much you have offered on the forum. I agree with Maggie...I hope you will return when ready. Your sharp wit will be missed till you do come back.
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Old 07-06-2016, 12:23 PM   #83
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August 2017 Colorado trip

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Just browsing the forum and saw your Colorado 2017 adventure. We were interested in the 2017 June trip but I believe you said it was booked, so we are wondering if the August trip is booked?
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Unless Ray changes his mind all 2017 activities have been cancelled I think.
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