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05-28-2015, 09:09 AM
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The Sign Lady
1969 23' Safari
1974 Argosy 22
1964 24' Tradewind
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2012
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TheSignLadys tips for finding and repairing leaky rivets + Fixing with Olympic Rivets
OK, I've been meaning to post this one for a while...
Here's a simple but amazing way to find and repair leaky rivets
First I had already visually gone over my trailer and replaced any obviously failing rivets. Then I went over every one of my rivets a few times with Captain Tolley's creeping crack cure, Captain Tolleys is nice because it wicks in under the rivet and seals it, but only if the gap is not too big.
Capt. Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure
Now for the cool part...
Everyone know the concept of how a suction cup works right, apply a suction cup to a smooth surface and it will seal, if you place it on incorrectly and air gets under, there is no seal...so based on that concept I went out to my trailer and went over each rivet one by one. If I tested a rivet with my suction cup and it didn't stay stuck on I knew that air was coming through from under the rivet itself and if air is getting through so can water.
Here is my video showing the process we used to find and repair leaky rivets
https://youtu.be/lYmQsn6DlE4
The suction cups can be found at pretty much any auto repair place
This is the Olympic rivet kit I bought from vintage trailer supply
Olympic Riveting Kit
The rivet remover tool I also bought from VTS
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05-28-2015, 09:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Signlady, Nice job on the video.
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05-28-2015, 09:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Good job.
Perry
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05-28-2015, 10:59 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Nice,
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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05-28-2015, 06:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Great tip to find the leakers and repair them! Thanks for sharing!
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05-28-2015, 08:39 PM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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very clever!
Jim
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05-28-2015, 10:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
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Join Date: Feb 2013
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Nyce job! could really see how the aluminum was deflected inward after you installed the new rivet...
Thanks!
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05-29-2015, 12:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
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I'm gobsmacked at the simplicity of using a suction cup to find leaky rivets! Never though of that one...
And the rest of the video is super useful for understanding how to fix it....
Many thanks for posting this!
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05-29-2015, 09:40 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Watertown
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Brilliant!
Brilliant idea to use a suction cup! I happened to have one of these so just for giggles I checked out some of my rivets. I found several that don't let the suction cup stick, but I don't see any evidence of a leak. So, am I suffering from wishful thinking, or could they be OK? My AS is practically brand new, so I can't imagine that several could already be leaking. And I only checked the reachable ones on one side - heaven knows how many I'd find if I checked all of them.
Thanks,
SallyE
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05-29-2015, 10:40 PM
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The Sign Lady
1969 23' Safari
1974 Argosy 22
1964 24' Tradewind
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 677
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I used the Captain Tolley's creeping crack cure before the suction cup test as I figure it will help seal the really minor air gaps that may be too small to be letting water in. It may not be foolproof test but as I have all the tools to do the repairs quick and easy and it helped me nail down my mystery leaks
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05-30-2015, 04:40 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Thesignlady - I was wondering about something - did you find any places on your Airstream where the curve of the shell or the indent of the rivet would have prevented a good seal on the suction cup even if the rivet itself would have been fine?
We had ours pressure tested at the factory last year and they found no leaks but I think your process once or twice a season is very good preventative maintenance!
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05-30-2015, 06:16 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Beaufort
, South Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Great info and video. Thank you.
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05-30-2015, 08:49 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,013
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Great Job!
So glad you are willing to share this with the Airstream Community here! I cannot believe that none of us here have ever thought of this! We are in your debt on this one. It works for all leaky rivets on any age riveted travel trailer not just Airstream! As to the question of if it indicates leaks on new trailers my answer would be that yes it is very likely showing air leakage around even newer rivets. Every time you move the trailer it will flex the panels and therefore loosen the rivets. Perhaps only a minor amount of gap occurs but worth a treatment with Capt. Tolleys. This is a great preventative method of stopping leaks before they happen. Again, thanks so much. Ed
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05-30-2015, 08:58 AM
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4 Rivet Member
houston
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Join Date: May 2015
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clever!!
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05-30-2015, 09:02 AM
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The Sign Lady
1969 23' Safari
1974 Argosy 22
1964 24' Tradewind
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 677
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Hi SteveSueMac, yes definitely I had areas where getting the suction cup to play was an obvious issue. Here's where I noticed issues, in some areas I had minor tree branch scratches that affected the seal, some it was mottled clearcoat, and then some areas of the big compound curves in the end caps pretty much matched the profile of the suction cup so it was easy to pull it off as not enough suction was gained. But the most problematic area was the rivets along the overlap seams, It was hard to get the cup placed in between the boundaries of the neighbouring rivets and the cut aluminium edge..the style of suction cup I show in the video is flat in its dormant state and kind of wide for that area. I found it tedious and sometimes impossible to get the cup to work along these edges so I am keeping my eye out for a dent puller my mom had when I was a kid for these areas. Moms kind of looked like a little bathroom plunger with a 2 foot long wood handle and a deep welled suction cup that was only one inch wide, no fancy release lever on that baby, just a good old fasioned suction cup on a stick :-) I'll let you know if I ever find one like it.
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05-30-2015, 11:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 17' Caravel
Oak Creek
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,560
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Great idea!
Thank you!
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09-04-2016, 12:08 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1968 22' Safari
Edmonton
, Alberta
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thesignlady
OK, I've been meaning to post this one for a while...
Here's a simple but amazing way to find and repair leaky rivets
First I had already visually gone over my trailer and replaced any obviously failing rivets. Then I went over every one of my rivets a few times with Captain Tolley's creeping crack cure, Captain Tolleys is nice because it wicks in under the rivet and seals it, but only if the gap is not too big.
Capt. Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure
Now for the cool part...
Everyone know the concept of how a suction cup works right, apply a suction cup to a smooth surface and it will seal, if you place it on incorrectly and air gets under, there is no seal...so based on that concept I went out to my trailer and went over each rivet one by one. If I tested a rivet with my suction cup and it didn't stay stuck on I knew that air was coming through from under the rivet itself and if air is getting through so can water.
Here is my video showing the process we used to find and repair leaky rivets
https://youtu.be/lYmQsn6DlE4
The suction cups can be found at pretty much any auto repair place
This is the Olympic rivet kit I bought from vintage trailer supply
Olympic Riveting Kit
The rivet remover tool I also bought from VTS
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This video should be utilized in some sort of vintage airstream owners manual! Well done!!!
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10-17-2017, 06:32 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 26' Flying Cloud
Southlake
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 496
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Following your advice, I went over all the rivets that are not on a seam with a small suction cup. To my surprise, I found one that was leaking. Right on the front, below the window. I applied Capt. Tolley's for two days and then checked the rivet again. The suction cup held!
Thanks for the tip.
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