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Old 10-29-2006, 06:55 AM   #15
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Would this work?

It looks like its behind the plastic headliner right?

Instead of spending two days to get that in an out..........

Cut an access hole in the plastic, say 18"x 18", push out or tap out the dent.

Then repair the plastic by placing the cutout back in and using an epoxy that comes in a tube, fillin the cut seam, sand and paint the whole plastic headliner with Krylon Fusion.

I would guess 3-4 hours?????
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:00 AM   #16
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Chuck, what the heck happened!!! How bad does it look from the inside.
Din't see any creases in it, may puu/push out. Mine had a nasty dent in the fron, CK did a great job making it go away, from the inside... Good Luck!
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:05 AM   #17
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Please tell me this will pull out with a suction cup. It isn't creased...but it does span a seam. please please please
I think it will pop with a suction cup. It wouldn't hurt to try as long as you take it slow. We popped a similar dent in our '64 -- the only difference was our's didn't involve a seam. We have a dent puller if you would like to borrow it.
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:09 AM   #18
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This reminds me of what happened to us last weekend when we were taking down limbs over our Flying Cloud. I wanted to move the trailer but the other half insisted that as long as we tie off the limb then we can lower it in a controlled fashion past the Airstream.

Well, the short story is one of the limbs we tied off was tied off too far up the branch so when we cut the limb, it acted like a fulcrum and fell on top of the '54. You never saw two people move so fast coming down ladders, dropping chain saw, moving ladders to check out the damage. Luckily there was none. Definite lesson learned there and luckily for us no bad consequences in the learning.
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:50 AM   #19
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I'm going out shortly to assess the interior...but I really don't want to cut into the end cap. its in great shape...and another thing is that it is NOT a single color. haven't seen many like this, but it has a speckled finish that matches the look of the vinyl wallpaper on the aluminum skins, and its in perfect shape. (not discolored or yellowed at all). so I'd hate to loose that. most I've seen, in pics or in person, are a solid color...if not "restored", they're yellowed and ratty looking, so sure, paint would be a good thing.

I had a simple dent puller at one time...not sure if I can locate it, but it was just a suction cup w/ a handle...kind of large, too. 3 or 4". I was thinking...I have a few of these suction-mounted utility hook things...they're very strong, and give you something to hold onto, as well. smaller (1 and 2" sizes), so they could be used more precisely...do you think that would work?
Is there any particular technique I should apply? I think I remember people saying that they worked slowly from the edges in toward the middle...or should I just stick a suction cup in the center of the dent, and give a good yank?
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Is there any particular technique I should apply? I think I remember people saying that they worked slowly from the edges in toward the middle...or should I just stick a suction cup in the center of the dent, and give a good yank?
Wet both the A/S and the underside of the puller so it glides over the surface. Start from the edges, give it some gentle pulls, and then move slowly into the middle repeating the "gentle pulls".

You can buy the dent puller with handle for under $5 at any auto store.
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Ok, an update....

I checked out the interior...no damage there. I tried pushing up on the endcap, too, just to see if I could feel the dent at all...nope. So I went out and tried the suction cup hook thingie that I mentioned...just gave a slight tug and the whole thing popped out all at once. BUT...its not 100%. there are still a few wrinkles. I tried to work those out, but they're too slight. Maybe if I try to massage it from the inside, but I don't know...might be a permanent scar.

Its possible that I might be able to get to the back side of it without removing the interior end cap. I'd have to remove the cabinet that is part of the cap, over the gaucho. its not far beneath the affected area. might be able to reach it with that out. kind of a pita to take it out, though.

Or, do you think the normal expansion/contraction from everyday sunlight will work it out? hard to tell from the pics....I posted a few in my photo gallery.
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Old 10-29-2006, 10:37 AM   #22
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Ok, an update....

I checked out the interior...no damage there. I tried pushing up on the endcap, too, just to see if I could feel the dent at all...nope. So I went out and tried the suction cup hook thingie that I mentioned...just gave a slight tug and the whole thing popped out all at once. BUT...its not 100%. there are still a few wrinkles. I tried to work those out, but they're too slight. Maybe if I try to massage it from the inside, but I don't know...might be a permanent scar.

Its possible that I might be able to get to the back side of it without removing the interior end cap. I'd have to remove the cabinet that is part of the cap, over the gaucho. its not far beneath the affected area. might be able to reach it with that out. kind of a pita to take it out, though.

Or, do you think the normal expansion/contraction from everyday sunlight will work it out? hard to tell from the pics....I posted a few in my photo gallery.
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Looks pretty darn good to me Chuck.
I say leave what's left as a beauty mark - I'd be willing to bet you will be the only one who notices it there.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:41 AM   #23
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Ok, an update.... I went out and tried the suction cup hook thingie that I mentioned...just gave a slight tug and the whole thing popped out all at once. BUT...its not 100%. there are still a few wrinkles. I tried to work those out, but they're too slight. Maybe if I try to massage it from the inside, but I don't know...might be a permanent scar.
I really like this sentiment that has been attributed to Jimmy Buffet:

"Oh well, you know that wrinkles only go where the smiles have been."

Having owned only a few pristine new things in my life, I prefer objects with honest wear marks on them that reveal use and enjoyment. Granted, your trailer may not have smiled after it was bonked in your driveway. But imagine a tale of high intrigue that left its mark behind. Mild wear and tear records adventures experienced, roads traveled and the occasional driveway suffered. My body carries a few small permanent scars from childhood misadventures, and I easily recall the story behind each one. So don't worry too much about the remaining small wrinkles; they come naturally with age in both human and trailer years.
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:07 PM   #24
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gee, I don't know if that makes me feel better, or worse. sure, it'd be one thing if it was the result of some high-adventure, like a ~fabulous~ cross-country trip..."gee, honey, did we get that dent on our 5th, or 6th trip across the country?"...or "that was the trip when we conceived our first child" ...or "remember when we hooked up the trailer and drove naked to the Woodstock music festival...and we got that dent?"....

but sitting in the driveway, parked...just waiting ever so patiently for such an adventure, the sort for which she was built....that's just freakin' sad.
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:14 PM   #25
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May be time to investigate the block of dry ice trick to try and erase the smaller wrinkles; IIRC it is letting aluminum bake in sunshine and quenching the periphery of the wrinkles with the supercold block of dry ice so the rapid contraction overcomes the slight ripple to resume the 'memory shape' of when it was stamp formed oringinally...
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:28 PM   #26
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Chuck - what a relief for you that the major dent is out. My 51 has several places where it's had incidents over the years and although it would be nice to have it without them I've left them as part of the trailer. It still looks a whole lot better at it's age than I do at mine. In my mind it's just the stuff a trailer that's been used for what it is would have - experience. Yours looks pretty darned good now but if the dry ice thing works let me know. There's one from a branch last winter that I might consider trying it on. My wife says our trailer looks "like a 55 year old trailer is supposed to look - well cared for but not perfect".
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:31 PM   #27
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Nice going! Windy today too, Keep an eye out!
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Old 10-29-2006, 03:04 PM   #28
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Chuck

Each of the extensions is 19" in length (or for my kit anyway). My wife says we bought two extension kits. The option might be to find one long piece of plastic tubing that you could adapt to your shop vac, but I like the fact I can disassemble this and put it away when not in use and it is made of very light but tough plastic. The screw to hold the sections together alleviated a lot of aggravation with them pulling or blowing apart while hanging from the gutter.

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