Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-02-2004, 09:55 PM   #57
4 Rivet Member
 
greg176's Avatar
 
1961 26' Overlander
Gabriola Island , British Columbia
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 474
Images: 1
To mark the corners I used the what was left of the old floor then bent a piece of aluminum over the points I had.Lucky for me most of the old floor in the front and back was intact.
Three panels across the top of my trailer were replaced by the PO.He used the method of drilling all new holes in the frame so the frame is like swiss cheeze and will not stand more holes. I will have to pick up the old holes somehow and maybe add some reinforcement to the frame.
He also used explosive rivets everywhere. They would be easy to install, too bad no longer available.

Malcolm, Andy says he has the end panels.Just email him with a photo of where the panel goes with year, model and s/n of your trailer.
__________________

__________________
greg176 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2004, 10:20 PM   #58
Rivet Master
 
1973 31' Sovereign
Portland , Oregon
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,245
Images: 22
Scribing an arc won't work...

Don,

Scribing an arc sure would not have worked for my rig. The curves on a 1973 31' are definitely not simple circular arcs. On mine there was enough stability on one side of the back for me to be able to make a template out of poster board following the inner curve of the body. I just trimmed with scissors until if fit right. I then had to enlarge it by 1-1/2" when I transfered it to my plywood. I was able to use the same template flipped around to trace the other side too. The front curves are also not the same as the rear curves. Maybe they are supposed to be but they definitely did not seem to be on mine cause I used the same cardboard to make a template for the front when I was done with it for the back. It would be nice if there was an official published pattern somewhere that we could all use when there isn't enough to work with from the actual trailer. You know - one of those types of drawings with little squares that you can transfer to your drawing with bigger squares. Once I had the curve drawn on the plywood cutting it with my saber saw was easy.

Malcolm
__________________

__________________
malconium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2004, 10:14 AM   #59
4 Rivet Member
 
greg176's Avatar
 
1961 26' Overlander
Gabriola Island , British Columbia
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 474
Images: 1
Malcolm, The tool you mentioned for making the compound curves is called an english wheel.
See: http://www.tinmantech.com/englishwhe...ish-wheel.html

This is not a tool for the novice. We have one at work and I've seen the men go through a whole sheet of aluminum to get one panel that fits.Again try Andy or an Airstream dealer.
__________________
greg176 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2004, 11:25 AM   #60
Rivet Master
 
till's Avatar
 
Lisle , Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,270
Images: 108
Blog Entries: 2
Going on what And said about replacing a panel. My question is, would using bucked rivets be a problem? One of the guys I work with has experance buck riveting from his days as an aircraft maintenance tech. He has offered to help out with my trailer and even make the bucking bars and rivet tools for the right size rivets. I just do not like using a "pop" type rivet on the out side skin. If I have too I will, but heck I have a chance at "original"
__________________
Tedd Ill
AIR#3788 TAC IL-10
1967/8 Overlander International Twin w/ bunk/s.
Yes, four kids and two adults in the thing.
Happy wife, happy life.
till is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2004, 11:49 AM   #61
Rivet Master
 
LOST , Hawaii
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,193
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg176
Malcolm, The tool you mentioned for making the compound curves is called an english wheel.
English wheel or press and die? Even a wood die would be good enough for the skin.

John
__________________
74Argosy24MH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2004, 12:48 PM   #62
Rivet Master
 
1973 31' Sovereign
Portland , Oregon
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,245
Images: 22
Bucked rivits would be fine...

Ted,

It is my understanding that the bucked rivits would be great. The Olympic pop-rivit type are a necessity if you can not get to both sides of the skin to do the riviting. They are also a lot easier for someone who does not have any riviting experience or must do it all by themseleves. If you have someone with riviting experience I say go for it.

Malcolm
__________________
malconium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2004, 06:37 PM   #63
4 Rivet Member
 
greg176's Avatar
 
1961 26' Overlander
Gabriola Island , British Columbia
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 474
Images: 1
Got the new sheet all lined up and drilled and clecoed yesterday.Removed it this morning.Deburred and cleaned up holes.Put a whole tube of vulkem on everything the reinstalled panel with clecos.Gave my wife a five minute lesson in bucking rivets then went at it.Really happy with results.Can't wait to get back to work to tell sheet metal guys my wife does a better job bucking rivets than they do.Really proud of her.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	clecos.jpg
Views:	246
Size:	67.0 KB
ID:	8268   Click image for larger version

Name:	rivets.jpg
Views:	238
Size:	61.3 KB
ID:	8269  

__________________
greg176 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2004, 06:46 PM   #64
Site Team
 
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,940
Images: 59
Hurray! Looks great. I ordered a sheet of 2024 T3 today. May I have my wife call your wife for tips on bucking rivets?
__________________
markdoane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2004, 10:08 PM   #65
4 Rivet Member
 
greg176's Avatar
 
1961 26' Overlander
Gabriola Island , British Columbia
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 474
Images: 1
Working on streetside panel now.Used up all my clecos.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	bighole.jpg
Views:	231
Size:	70.7 KB
ID:	8348   Click image for larger version

Name:	manyclecos.jpg
Views:	335
Size:	71.6 KB
ID:	8349  

__________________
greg176 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2004, 10:14 PM   #66
Site Team
 
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,940
Images: 59
New name for your unit: The Copper Porcupine.
__________________
markdoane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2004, 12:16 PM   #67
uwe
418
 
uwe's Avatar
 
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley , California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,767
Images: 41
Send a message via Skype™ to uwe
OK, I want clecos, too.
__________________
Uwe
www.area63productions.com
uwe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2004, 01:12 PM   #68
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Cleco's

For a one time or small sheet metal repair job, cleco's are not necessary.

You can use #8 pan head sheet metal screws instead.

Andy
__________________
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2004, 02:29 PM   #69
Rivet Master
 
LOST , Hawaii
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,193
You are also going to have a bunch of dull 1/8" bits, give them a second use in life.

John
__________________
74Argosy24MH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2004, 08:28 PM   #70
4 Rivet Member
 
greg176's Avatar
 
1961 26' Overlander
Gabriola Island , British Columbia
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 474
Images: 1
That's the big one done.A few clecos left on front edge to tie in new front panel.Next time I'll use .040" per Andy's advice,it would be a lot easier to keep flat.Now I'm trying to figure out which panel to do next.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	streetside.jpg
Views:	215
Size:	82.0 KB
ID:	8411  
__________________

__________________
greg176 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.