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Old 08-02-2004, 07:44 PM   #1
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I started replacing the aft panel on my trailer today.The old panel was so badly stretched I could not see how to install the "U" channnel on the new floor.The new panel is held on now with only four clecos but is a nice tight fit.I will have to finish the "U" channel installation and the aft end of the belly panel before I can rivet on the aft panel.
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Old 08-02-2004, 09:10 PM   #2
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Panels with compound curves?

On my 1973 31' Sovereign the panel that needs replacing the most is, of course, one of the ones with a compound curve. It is the left rear panel in the second row from the bottom. It connects from the edge of the back window around to the first body bow. I took the old panel out over the weekend without too much trouble. It was actually a bit easier to get out than I would have thought and appears to have been a replacement itself. It did not have any sealer of any kind around its edges and was installed with Olympic rivits. Well the question is will this panel be hard to replace? Can I get a flat sheet of aluminum to fit the compound curve or not? I seem to recall seeing an AS factory tour segment on TV that showed the folks there shaping the metal panels to the compund curve using some sort of press. In the long run I intend to have my trailer painted so I am wondering now if I can maybe repair the old panel and put it back in. It does have a tear though. Has anyone had any success with getting a split welded on such thin sheet metal? Is their a source for replacement panels already formed to the curve?

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Old 08-02-2004, 09:15 PM   #3
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Greg,
Really nice work. How did you cut the corners? They look a lot smoother than the corners on my Tradewind, which look like they were cut with a chainsaw. Did you use a template, or did you scribe an arc?
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Old 08-02-2004, 09:55 PM   #4
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To mark the corners I used the what was left of the old floor then bent a piece of aluminum over the points I had.Lucky for me most of the old floor in the front and back was intact.
Three panels across the top of my trailer were replaced by the PO.He used the method of drilling all new holes in the frame so the frame is like swiss cheeze and will not stand more holes. I will have to pick up the old holes somehow and maybe add some reinforcement to the frame.
He also used explosive rivets everywhere. They would be easy to install, too bad no longer available.

Malcolm, Andy says he has the end panels.Just email him with a photo of where the panel goes with year, model and s/n of your trailer.
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:20 PM   #5
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Scribing an arc won't work...

Don,

Scribing an arc sure would not have worked for my rig. The curves on a 1973 31' are definitely not simple circular arcs. On mine there was enough stability on one side of the back for me to be able to make a template out of poster board following the inner curve of the body. I just trimmed with scissors until if fit right. I then had to enlarge it by 1-1/2" when I transfered it to my plywood. I was able to use the same template flipped around to trace the other side too. The front curves are also not the same as the rear curves. Maybe they are supposed to be but they definitely did not seem to be on mine cause I used the same cardboard to make a template for the front when I was done with it for the back. It would be nice if there was an official published pattern somewhere that we could all use when there isn't enough to work with from the actual trailer. You know - one of those types of drawings with little squares that you can transfer to your drawing with bigger squares. Once I had the curve drawn on the plywood cutting it with my saber saw was easy.

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Old 08-03-2004, 10:14 AM   #6
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Malcolm, The tool you mentioned for making the compound curves is called an english wheel.
See: http://www.tinmantech.com/englishwhe...ish-wheel.html

This is not a tool for the novice. We have one at work and I've seen the men go through a whole sheet of aluminum to get one panel that fits.Again try Andy or an Airstream dealer.
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Old 08-03-2004, 11:49 AM   #7
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Malcolm, The tool you mentioned for making the compound curves is called an english wheel.
English wheel or press and die? Even a wood die would be good enough for the skin.

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Old 08-03-2004, 12:48 PM   #8
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Bucked rivits would be fine...

Ted,

It is my understanding that the bucked rivits would be great. The Olympic pop-rivit type are a necessity if you can not get to both sides of the skin to do the riviting. They are also a lot easier for someone who does not have any riviting experience or must do it all by themseleves. If you have someone with riviting experience I say go for it.

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Old 08-03-2004, 11:25 AM   #9
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Going on what And said about replacing a panel. My question is, would using bucked rivets be a problem? One of the guys I work with has experance buck riveting from his days as an aircraft maintenance tech. He has offered to help out with my trailer and even make the bucking bars and rivet tools for the right size rivets. I just do not like using a "pop" type rivet on the out side skin. If I have too I will, but heck I have a chance at "original"
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Old 08-10-2004, 06:46 PM   #10
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Hurray! Looks great. I ordered a sheet of 2024 T3 today. May I have my wife call your wife for tips on bucking rivets?
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Old 08-15-2004, 10:08 PM   #11
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Working on streetside panel now.Used up all my clecos.
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Old 08-15-2004, 10:14 PM   #12
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New name for your unit: The Copper Porcupine.
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:16 PM   #13
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OK, I want clecos, too.
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:12 PM   #14
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Cleco's

For a one time or small sheet metal repair job, cleco's are not necessary.

You can use #8 pan head sheet metal screws instead.

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