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Old 06-05-2007, 10:33 PM   #15
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rolite company and 3m pad

I tried the 3 m pad and it helped a little with a lot of pressure and scrubbing. I had some paste in a very old can from rolite that I had while helping a friend restore an old luscombe airplane. I used this and in about 15 minutes it is all gone. I suspect that it may look a little shinyer now but I have to do the other side anyway. thanks a lot for the reccomendation. robert
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:55 AM   #16
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Love that Wanderlodge next to your unit.

My front stainless also have rusted. It appears to be a VERY low grade stainless. I mean I have a stainless exhast on my car and stainless in my sink that has held up better to far more abuse than my front protectors have seen.

For you though, yours do look far worse than mine, but lucky for you, you still may have some warranty left, unless for some reason, you get an answer that this too is not covered under warranty as some have claimed they have been told by the factory folks for the acutal corrosion issues on the outer skins, rims and cast alum tail lights...which you can read more about here :

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ams-31743.html
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:21 AM   #17
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chaunceyboy: Welcome to the forums. Looks like you got a good deal on that trailer. Iím sure the experts here will help you with any problems you may have. It looks to me like water from condensation, etc., was held next to the SS panels by the plastic shrink-wrap.

Turtle wax has a bug and tar remover product in a pump spray (found it at Wal*Mart) that has been working very well for me. We are just coming out of ďLove BugĒ season here (ask anyone who lives in Florida) and it has been an especially bad season. A spraying with the remover, wait a minute or so, and the bugs come off with soap and water, and sometimes a gentle fingernail scrape. The product leaves a nice shine too. Iíve been using this to keep the front end of the trailer clean during this particularly bad season.

I made the mistake of putting Walbernize on my SS rock guards, and they have been hazy and swirly ever since. An RV detailer who works at the facility where we keep our trailer recommended a product sold by Lowes called Stainless Magic. He said it would clean, shine, and protect those panels. He cautioned not to get any on the aluminum skin though, and always apply with the grain. I intend to get some and try it out next weekend.

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Old 06-13-2007, 09:24 PM   #18
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2 months old and the panels are all rusty

I emailed customer service at AS about the fine coating of rust all over the left front stone guard. It looks really bad up close but at least from a distance it just looks dirty

As far as I am concerned I got a MUCH less than satisfactory response :

"The wrap protectors are stainless steel and we use White Diamond stainless steel polish and cleaner. Any good stainless steel polish should protect the wrap protectors."

Strange how my stainless steel BBQ has NO rust after 4 years outside but my $50k AS has rust after 2 months. I find this really frustrating on a 2 month old trailer.
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I used a pretty agressive metal polish designed to polish the aluminum on airplanes. It took most of it off, but if you look very closely there are still stains that cannot be removed even with steel wool. Im surprised that they wouldnt replace these under warantee.
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Old 06-13-2007, 10:17 PM   #20
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equalizer hitch set up

first of all I still havent figured out how to post in the correct spot of the forum. Anyway I am taking the as out this weekend and it came with a big equaliaer hitch that has two big bars that rest upon two cams supported by chains about a foot and a half behind the ball coupling. Can anyone describe the hook up procedure to me. I didnt hook them up when I brought it the short didtance from where I bought it.

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Old 06-13-2007, 10:24 PM   #21
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hi go to the top of the page and click on portal then forums scroll down until you see the forum for towing or hitches click there and you can start a new thread. Are you saying you have the Equalizer brand hitch? It sounded like Reese dual cam to me. Anyway doing a google search you can find the manufacturers page and instructions. I say this just to tide you over until some else more proficient at explanations answers you.

It wouldn't be from brake dust that the stone guards have rust would it?
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Old 06-13-2007, 10:30 PM   #22
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well with mine it had only been towed about 30 miles from the dealer to the original owner then shrink wrapped for the winter untill I bought it a couple weeks ago, so I cant imagine it would be due to anything but a poor grade of stainless. There are no other areas affected and the stone guards have the corrosion on both sides of each of them. The guy I bought it from never used it or pulled it at all. Very strange to me.
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Do you think the shrink wrap trapped in moisture? Could he have shrink wrapped it after it started? I had corrosion on the outer trim of my guards with the 2005 but steel wooled them. My chrome and Classic battery box frames in front had corrosion. But the 2007 has several spots of filiment corrosion that I never had with the 2005.
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What is see in your pictures is the panels have not been properly "passified". The panels have come in contact with plain steel somewhere during their processing during the original manufacture. I spent 8 years working for Johnson/Evinrude Oatboard motors as their materials engineer. People in the marine industry know all about this problem. Most people in the RV business people (including Airstream engineering department) do not. The usual field problem comes from someone using a regular steel wool pad to polish something. This is guarentteed to leave microscopic Iron contamenation and resulting rust. At Outboard Marine Corporation we had a standard proceedure and chemicals to remove all plain steel contamenants and properly passivate the stainless steel. Try goggling "passivating stainless steel" and see what you get. Otherwise the American Society for Metals or any of the large stainless steel suppliers will definitely have the procedure that they can send you. PM me if you can not get a response. Sorry for the trouble caused by Airstream manufacturing but they refused to hire me as a consultant several years ago when I offered to help them.
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Great info. As for Airstream's responses, I'd have to agree, they've been rather light lately. FWIW, my protectors have a lesser degree of this issue, but there are a few spots that can clearly be seen. Seems they've had this issue since at least the date of manufacture of my unit which was 12/03.
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What is see in your pictures is the panels have not been properly "passified". The panels have come in contact with plain steel somewhere during their processing during the original manufacture. I spent 8 years working for Johnson/Evinrude Oatboard motors as their materials engineer. People in the marine industry know all about this problem. Most people in the RV business people (including Airstream engineering department) do not. The usual field problem comes from someone using a regular steel wool pad to polish something. This is guarentteed to leave microscopic Iron contamenation and resulting rust. At Outboard Marine Corporation we had a standard proceedure and chemicals to remove all plain steel contamenants and properly passivate the stainless steel. Try goggling "passivating stainless steel" and see what you get. Otherwise the American Society for Metals or any of the large stainless steel suppliers will definitely have the procedure that they can send you. PM me if you can not get a response. Sorry for the trouble caused by Airstream manufacturing but they refused to hire me as a consultant several years ago when I offered to help them.

OMG, as soon as I can get the proper size pickling tanks, chemicals, rubber gloves and a floor length rubber apron I am going right to work on my rusty panel -- NOT. I am going to go after it as a warranty claim now that I know it is a manufacturing defect.

Thank you for the clarification and providing some insight on what happened. These forums are an amazing resource.
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Here is one I found FWIW:

Feature Article - How To Passivate Stainless Steel Parts
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That is an excellant article and covers the subject. The Rock guards I think are made from 302 sheet Austenitic stainless steel. The microscopic rust may come from the rolling or could be the result of how the sheets are given the brushed finish. All marine companies passivate all their stainless parts before they are sold to the public. There is also specialized procedures for the precipitate hardening grades but you do not need to worry about that also. For those intending to buff out a few scratches yourself it is important that you do not use plain steel Brillow pads or you will have a bad looking product as soon as the trailer sets around in a humid enviroment and even worse if it is near the coast in the salt air. If you attempt to do your own passivating, the nitric acid solution they recommend is highly corrosive and you need to take very special precautions to make sure none of it contacts your skin, eyes, or non-rubber clothing. You really do not need to heat the nitric acid. The fumes are also pretty bad so it needs to be done outdoors or with forced ventilation and you need full face protection with the right kind of filter on the respirator. Some saltwater marinas have the capability of performing this service for you.
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