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Old 09-14-2004, 09:45 AM   #15
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What about inside for the interior panels. Olympic or bulb or something else?
The interior rivets are a painted pop rivet. Kind of an ivory color. I use unpainted ones and hit them with a dab of model paint. If for some reason the hole has gotten enlarged you can use an Olympic rivet or an over sized pop rivet or a washer under the rivet. Or! you can do like my wife does and hang a picture over it.

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Old 09-14-2004, 01:55 PM   #16
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Many of the interior rivets were missing in the back. Good excuse to buy new axels. Since this trailer will be for long trips in far away places with lots of dirt and gravel roads I was thinking the interior panels and overall structure needs something stronger than the ones I removed. Is there a downside to using the olympic style rivets inside. We are planning to spray paint the inside Por 15 Sterling Silver for adhesion and durability.
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We are planning to spray paint the inside Por 15 Sterling Silver for adhesion and durability.
What are you going to use for a tie coat or primer?
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:28 PM   #18
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I was going to use the Tie Coat but I am still in planning stage. I do know I'm not going after the Zolatone. That is on good and see no reason to do more than clean, lightly sand, and clean again.
It's so easy to just spray the whole thing when it's empty I want to use something that's going to last. Easy being a relative expression of course. Like it's easier to clean the topside of the belly pan with the floor off.
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Old 09-15-2004, 12:22 PM   #19
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Do you know when AS switched to soft rivets? Mine ('59) are all hardened, with the dimple.
That's a good question. My 75 has mostly soft rivets. It does have hard rivets in the front, the double row behind the LP tanks. That's all I know about so far.
To answer your question; I have no idea.
Maybe Andy from Inland RV knows for sure.
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Old 09-15-2004, 01:31 PM   #20
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We are planning to spray paint the inside Por 15 Sterling Silver for adhesion and durability.
Really??? POR-15 is primarily a rust preventive material...why would you use it on the interior aluminum panels?

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Old 09-15-2004, 01:35 PM   #21
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Really??? POR-15 is primarily a rust preventive material...why would you use it on the interior aluminum panels?

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Por 15 is the brand. Yes it's for over the POR 15 paint as is the primer. Should stick real good. Cann't see saving $50 when something takes so much work to do. Thus do it forever. Open to alternatives.
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Look at Zinnsser bulls eye 123 water based primer - its sticks to anything. Thats what I'm going to use - that is unless I decide to strip the whole thing and do Zolotone again. When I say strip, I don't mean me, I'm going to take it to a body shop and get some prices, but I suspect I'll end up using the bulls eye with a good quality topcoat. The reason I need to strip is because the PO painted - and I'm going to assume they used water based paint.

Por 15 is not intended for interior painting and is very expensive - if your going to shoot por 15, might as well shoot zolotone.

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I've worked with the Sterling Silver, and I don't think you will enjoy spraying it. It is designed to bind well to the POR-15 chemistry. I agree with Shari and Ken that it may not be the best application for Sterling Silver.

I would check the Zolatone chemistry (I believe the traditional formula is enamel based), and pick a primer and automotive silver color coat that is compatible.
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Por 15 is the brand.
I'm familiar with the POR-15 Stirling Silver product as well as the POR-15 Silver basecoat...I used them on my bumper, tongue & step.

For the right application I think it's a teriffic product, I am just curious about it being used on the interior walls...the aluminum panels flex with heat/cold and movement, I don't believe the POR-15 will flex enough, thus I question it's compatability with the aluminum interior panels.

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Am I correct in my understanding that you should not put Zolotone over anything that was water based?

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Am I correct in my understanding that you should not put Zolotone over anything that was water based?

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Ken,

I haven't heard that, but it may be true! The color vesicles that are in Zolatone are water based; that's the secret to keeping the color specs separate from the base color, until they go 'splat' against the surface.

I wouldn't risk it. Kind of like putting enamel over latex.
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My understanding is Zolotone is oil based and if you put it over water based paint, the water based paint will come off in sheets.

I say all this, because I really want to shoot some Zolotone, I don't want to shorten my life anymore than I already have by using stripper, so as I said will probably end up with Bulls Eye and a best quality Sherwin Williams paint.

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Am I correct in my understanding that you should not put Zolotone over anything that was water based?
There are actually now two different formulations of Zolatone...one 'water-based' and one 'solvent-based'.

The solvent based is the 'traditional' formulation that was most likely used in our Airstreams. The water-based formula is a more evironmentally friendly and has less odor during 'cure time'. I am more familar with the traditional formula, as I have usually used it in unoccupied (new) buildings before there are occupants, the odor isn't a problem after it cures.

I don't see why you couldn't use the acrylic-based over water based paint, if primed properly. However if that paint was not primed or preped properly when it was applied, the new Zolatone would only be adhered to the panels as well as the old paint is. There are spec sheets available on the website linked above that suggest application techniques over various surfaces.

If I were to go to the effort & expense of refinishing the interior, I would strip the old water based paint down to the old Zolatone, then prime & re-Zolatone with the solvent-based product.

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