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05-25-2004, 02:17 PM
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Rivet Question
Am restoring a Cruisette. With a single skin, front and rear, the rivets used show from both sides. This pretty much rules out the 3 legged bulb type rivet. Pop rivets would almost be as ugly. Seems like I'm looking for the same type of rivets that Wally used. Any help or direction out there. Thanks, Dennis
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05-25-2004, 02:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
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I assume the outside skin is attached to ribs? If thats the case, then you can see the ribs on the inside of the trailer? The orginal rivets were "bucket" types and I would think there should have been inner skin - is perhaps the inner skin missing? I know Airstream did a lot of custom stuff back then.
Let me be the first to welcome you to Airstream Forums!
Ken
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05-25-2004, 03:40 PM
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Ken - Thanks much for the welcome. I arrive with little knowledge and many questions. The 52 Cruisettes were a one year thing, 15' long, with little creature comforts. In almost all cases, the front and rear 3' were of single skin construction, so the segments you see inside are the same segment you see outside. For that reason, you are also looking at both sides of the rivets. I believe at the factory, they were "bucked", which I guess is one way of saying there was a guy on each side - one with a "hammer", the other with a heavy back-up "buck" to help spread the rivet. In any case, I think what I need is a duplicate of the rivets Wally used and am hoping to find a source for that rivet. Thanks again, Dennis
52 Cruisette
52 Flying Cloud
56 Overlander
68 Overlander
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05-25-2004, 04:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
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Dennis
Interesting - buck rivets should be very easy to find - chek www.mcmaster.com. Those rivets have not really changed over the years. I'm sure others will chime in as well. And yes Olympics would not work and pop rivets would be worse
If you have time, join us tonight (Tues) for chat night - every Tues evening at 9:00 eastern time - bunch of us get on there and talk about all kinds of stuff.
Ken
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05-25-2004, 05:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
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Check with an airplane mechanic. We had one replace some bucked rivets around the edge of our door, which only took one person. You do have to have two people, just as you described one on the inside & one on the outside, if work is in the center of a panel or inside your trailer..
Ken, et al...there are pictures of the Cruisette's single end cap skin on RJ's Archive website
Shari
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05-25-2004, 06:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
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learn something new everyday - yup, you will need buckets
Ken
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05-25-2004, 06:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
Putnam
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Hey Dennis you got some cool trailers there. What shape are then in?
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05-25-2004, 07:39 PM
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Yo Paul and other helpful aluminum people. Thanks for the thoughts, will check them out.
As far as my mini collection, the 52 Cruisette may be considered somewhat rare. What might help there is that it is a 15 panel trailer, # 8007. It is in the "throws" of restoration. The 30 segments are in great shape, thank goodness. From then on, it was in need of TLC, lots of it. I'm trying.
52 Flying Cloud, great shape, fun camper.
56 Overlander, 13 panel front, dutch back, aluminum good, needs resto.
68 Overlander, great shape, my wife seems to like the bathroom option!!!
Thanks for the warm welcome. Best, Dennis
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05-25-2004, 09:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
Putnam
, Connecticut
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It will be a long time before you run out of things to do. Welcome to the illness.
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05-25-2004, 09:49 PM
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Here is a link to Airparts, they should have the rivets that you need. They should also have the tools (rivet gun, rivet sets,bucking bars)
http://www.airpartsinc.com/catalog2004_gif.htm
Good Luck!
David
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05-26-2004, 09:47 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1982 34' Limited
Tidewater
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Hi!
If you are looking for solid rivets (and you are) here is an excellent source:
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog...584/index.html
Hope this helps.
Take care,
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05-26-2004, 10:32 PM
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Thanks all... I'll report back when I have a report to report back. Best, DC
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05-26-2004, 10:41 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1961 26' Overlander
Gabriola Island
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That's a bucked rivet not a bucket rivet .
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05-27-2004, 09:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
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1 rivet = bucked rivet - lots of rivets is a bucket of rivets.
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Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
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05-27-2004, 11:11 AM
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Rivet Master
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When I was a kid we used to gig frogs and eat their legs. We'd collect a gunny sack full of bullfrogs and call it a sackful of "Rrrrr...rivets"
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