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Old 08-27-2004, 01:07 PM   #71
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onest you been leared english good, hain't nobody can change that!...
Does that help with YUR confusion? LOL. It just kills me to think what people due to the English language.
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Old 08-27-2004, 01:36 PM   #72
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I thought this site was to help Airstream owners, with their Airstream concerns and/or their Airstream problems, as well as to share Airstream experiences and Airstream knowledge.

Gosh, if we have to toss in being gramatically correct, I am afraid many of us would no longer post.

Most often, everyone knows what you mean, without have to say "you know what I mean," even though at times, we bend the English language.

However, bending the English language is far more forgiveable than bending an Airstream, and that's the real reason for this site, "AND" it's success.

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Old 08-27-2004, 02:02 PM   #73
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Ok..I give up...UR right..
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Old 08-27-2004, 02:47 PM   #74
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Ok..I give up...UR right..
?? Wasn't UR a city in ancient Mesopotamia? Don't see the conxshun. . . .
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As another example, with a ball park 750 pounds tongue weight, a large car would use a 1000 pound hitch, a 1/2 ton truck a 750 hitch, and a 3/4 to 1 ton truck a 550 pound hitch.
Andy,

I an not sure what you are describing in the above quote:

Are you referring to the hitch weight rating of the bars?
OR
Is this the total load that is being transferred forward to the center of the vehicle?
OR
Is this the tongue weight of the trailer?


I am so confused..........

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Old 08-27-2004, 05:34 PM   #76
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The numbers I listed are the "bar" ratings.

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Old 08-27-2004, 08:59 PM   #77
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Andy, Noting today's tow vehicle.....

The 1000 lb bars are pretty obsolite, unless you pull with a 74 Chrysler "Town and Country " station wagon.


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What Airstream and Reese have to say

I have a 2005 28 Classic being pulled by a 2004 Dodge 2500 Cummins 4WD Auto. I have the Reese HP Dual Cam setup with 1200 lb bars. After reading all these posts regarding the proper spring bar weight, I was concerned enough to contact both Airstream and Reese regarding the matter as follows:

Message: I have a 2005 Airstream 28
Classic being pulled by a
2004 Dodge 3/4 ton Cummins
Diesel Pickup. Airstream
lists the unloaded trailer
weight weight at 6800 lbs and
the tongue weight at around 800 lbs.

I use the Dual cam straight
line hi performance setup. Do
I need 800lb spring bars or
1200 lb spring bars?

Thank you.

Airstream's answer was:
Here is a site that will help you out with your questions. If you have any more questions please e-mail. http://www.reeseprod.com/

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Now here is Reese Products one word answer to me. 1200#

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Old 08-29-2004, 11:36 AM   #79
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grossly overhitched?

I was following this thread and have a question if you don't mind. I have a 1987 25' Sovreign with a V5 Drawtight receiver hitch and 1000 lb. spring bars. The tow vehicle 2003 Chevy Avalanche 3.73 rear ratio. In your opinion am I over hitched for this trailer? Thanks!
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There are several issues that must be considered.

First of all, you must provide a "soft" ride for an Airstream trailer. If not, then you usually damage the front end.

That being the case, the "bars" must have some flex.

Secondly, at the same time, adequate weight transfer must take place.

Third, if the above are the conditions, then what is the weight and balance on your rig?.

No one, anyone can make a flat statement that any size bars can be used, without first knowing the trailer, the tow vehicle, and the tow vehicle rear spring rate.

Then and only then, can you make a proper determination.

Lastly, Reese has never made an insurance settlement for loss of control accidents.

I have made several hundreds of them.

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There are several issues that must be considered.

First of all, you must provide a "soft" ride for an Airstream trailer. If not, then you usually damage the front end.

That being the case, the "bars" must have some flex.

Secondly, at the same time, adequate weight transfer must take place.

Third, if the above are the conditions, then what is the weight and balance on your rig?.

No one, anyone can make a flat statement that any size bars can be used, without first knowing the trailer, the tow vehicle, and the tow vehicle rear spring rate.

Then and only then, can you make a proper determination.

Lastly, Reese has never made an insurance settlement for loss of control accidents.

I have made several hundreds of them.

Andy
In my prior post, I detailed the trailer specs and the the tow vehicle specs.
What weight spring bars should I be using?
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I still would like to know if this crash was caused by human error!

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Old 08-30-2004, 09:39 AM   #83
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I answered your question in detail yesterday, however, when I went to post it, AOL said "goodbye."

Therefore, it was lost.

I will try it again, today or tomorrow.

It took about 45 minutes, just to type it.

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Human error almost always enters the picture, especially when someone is improperly rigged.

Correcting an appreciable sway, by feel, cannot be done. There is the problem, in itself.

A pilot cannot fly an aircraft by the seat of their pants, and a good sway, cannot be eliminated by the seat of the drivers pants, either.

By actual tests, what you physically think and feel you should do, in fact, is the opposite thing that should have been done.

More later.

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