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Old 04-24-2012, 04:57 PM   #1
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I'm new at rivets!

I have been doing some work to my '86 sovereign, and have had some trials with the rivets. A friend told me that after I insert and squeeze the gun so the rivet sets, that the tail should always snap off on it's own, only two out of twenty did this, the rest I had to snip off, which is right??

Also, some of the rivets were not real tight, even though I squeezed the heck out of them, and I do have a grip, why is this??? I was using the smallest rivet I could find, 1/8" aluminum.

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Old 04-24-2012, 05:05 PM   #2
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Hello, sometimes you must let up on the handle and squeeze it several times,by doing this it will draw the head into the rivet and tighten it and the nail will pop off.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:00 PM   #3
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As Trapperman said, let the gun open, push the gun down to the rivet and give it another squeeze. The rivet shaft should not snap off until the rivet is fully compressed on the back side.

You should probably drill out the ones that you snipped and do them again.
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:41 PM   #4
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Drill out? argh!!! Thanks for the advice though, I will do and try it again. Thanks!!
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:08 PM   #5
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I have been doing some work to my '86 sovereign, and have had some trials with the rivets. A friend told me that after I insert and squeeze the gun so the rivet sets, that the tail should always snap off on it's own, only two out of twenty did this, the rest I had to snip off, which is right??

Also, some of the rivets were not real tight, even though I squeezed the heck out of them, and I do have a grip, why is this??? I was using the smallest rivet I could find, 1/8" aluminum.

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Depending on the gun you have there may be an adjustment that is done with the tool to change the head. It is like a flat key and you adjust the screw that compresses the spring that pushes on the fingers that grip the rivet tail, to loose and it slips instead of pulling it tight and snapping it off after 2 to 3 squeezes.
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Drill out? argh!!! Thanks for the advice though, I will do and try it again. Thanks!!
Rivets that were not fully tightened are harder to remove then ones installed properly. Your rivets will probably spin when you drill them.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:22 PM   #7
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There is a guide that specifies the length of rivet you need to use for the thickness of material... also, the diameter you need to use should be snug with the drilled hole. You might want to put a rivet in your gun and see how it deforms without fastening anything... aluminum rivets deform quite a bit before they 'pop'... hence the name 'pop rivet'. On your typical cheapo hand rivet tool... this is usually two or three full strokes if you can get them, or several partial strokes if you can't get full stroke on each squeeze (like in tight spots).
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Thanks again for all the advice! I wondered what that flat tool was for on my rivet gun. Will try to tighten the head and then will do some practice on the spare aluminum I have.

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Thanks again for all the advice! I wondered what that flat tool was for on my rivet gun. Will try to tighten the head and then will do some practice on the spare aluminum I have.

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If the gun will not pull on the rivet tail even when you release and push it flush with the head, tighten the screw a little as you go clockwise, this presses the spring firmer on the jaws inside that grip the rivet tail.

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You will always have the odd aluminum rivet that will break long. Some common problems are. Rivet body to long for material thickness. Oversize dia. tip for rivet mandrel used. Too strong a grip!, torqueing gun/ bending rivet mandrel before it breaks. Really lousey rivet gun. AND the one that will really *#@@ you off, a bad box of rivets*!*!*!.....Yea it happens. Got a box of 500 a couple yrs ago. About 1 of 3 would break long. Took them back, got a hard time. Turned the box over on the counter, walked out, and will NEVER buy a fastener from that company again. Same size from Marston, no problem at all.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:32 PM   #11
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PutBack said it all..

Never will I waste my time with discount china rivets ever again.. Lots like women,. Good ones you keep and treasure and the bad ones all one does is beat yourself up and you waste your time and money..

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Comparing rivets to women, my wife says we have been spending too much time with our trailers!
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Comparing rivets to women, my wife says we have been spending too much time with our trailers!
This is a common problem!
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Does any one know why I am not able to get these rivets to seat fully? I did 5 in a row with no trouble. Now I can't get them to fully seat. 10 rivets with problems. Any help would be appreciated.
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