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02-01-2010, 07:13 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' International CCD
1957 26' Overlander
Plymouth
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 554
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Forming End Panel Segments
I guess its time that I ask for help! I have been reading these forums for a while now and I am becoming aware of all the wisdom and talent that is represented by the members here.
I have been blessed with the opportunity of becoming the care taker of a 1957 Overlander. Most of the trailer seems to be in very good shape . Im looking forward to seeing how well she shines up.The end caps are 13 panel and I can only imagine what they look like all polished up.
Now for the help that I need.
Can anyone tell me how a guy would form the bead that runs along the edge of each end panel segment? Sorry I dont have a photo of this, I havent picked up the trailer yet. I need to replace a few end panels and its my understanding that these are made from flat stock.My dilemma is how do I go about forming the bead, in the metal, that runs along the edge of each panel.I would like to find a way to make the panels at home. I dont mind investing in a few tools along the way.I am looking for a reliable, repeatable method to do this task.
I have to believe that someone else has had to do this. I have tried the search function and found many close topics. Can someone share the secret?
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02-01-2010, 07:28 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,499
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Lee
1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
WBCCI 4258
TCT
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02-01-2010, 07:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Rolling the edge of sheet metal is usually done with a bench mounted rolling tool. I would take a trip to any sheet metal shop and they will most likely be able to show you.
You may want to be holding the bow in the sheet as you apply the bead because the bead if formed while the sheet is flat will resist forming the curve when installed on the trailer and may kink.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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02-01-2010, 07:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' International CCD
1957 26' Overlander
Plymouth
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 554
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You guys are quick Thank you Ill start reading
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02-01-2010, 07:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 21' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Arvada
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,527
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02-01-2010, 07:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' International CCD
1957 26' Overlander
Plymouth
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 554
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Aerowood
Your link didn,t work Would you please try again. Thank you
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02-01-2010, 07:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
1957 22' Custom
1963 16' Bambi
Vacationland
, Maine
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 956
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerowood
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I was going to say......ask Aerowood , but this link did not work for me.
also TRY:
Pexto Rotary Machine at Van Sant Enterprises' Trick-Tools.com
I have not done this type of work, but imagine this kind of tool would be used. Also power versions.
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02-01-2010, 07:47 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BradS
Aerowood
Your link didn,t work Would you please try again. Thank you
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Try it again. Kip (Aerowood) has fixed the link.
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Lee
1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
WBCCI 4258
TCT
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02-01-2010, 08:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' International CCD
1957 26' Overlander
Plymouth
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 554
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You guys are great.
I want and looked at the Overlander on Saturday and of course I knew I needed to give it a good home. I agreed to buy it.
Both endcaps have been the target of falling trees. Other than that and a missing bathroom, broken window and some random holes that need filling, the trailer is in wonderful shape. Or at least it appears to be.
Forming the bead on the endpanels has so far seemed like my greatest challenge. And thanks to you guys I now feel better about That task.
I know I am looking at a shell off floor replacement. I need to add waste tanks, a water heater and a bathroom. I have alot of work ahead of me and I am looking forward to it.
Ill bring the trailer home when the snow melts. Until then I plan on reading everything I can. Thank you in advance for any wisdom you may share. Ill try to post some pics when I get her home.
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02-01-2010, 09:48 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
Posts: 4,360
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Sounds like a great find and we all love pictures but what I really want to know is how is it you have the fortitude to wait until spring? I couldn't do it, I need to get started now otherwise I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
Brad
FF
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I'm haunted by aluminum.
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02-01-2010, 09:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' International CCD
1957 26' Overlander
Plymouth
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 554
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I cant bring it home until the snow melts. Right now the trailer is in a field and the snow is deep. Another month or two and Ill be able to bring it home.
I would like to be sitting in it right now and working on it but I must act like I am grown up and wait
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02-01-2010, 10:31 AM
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Rivet Master
1954 25' Cruiser
Currently Looking...
Cruisin
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 683
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Hi Brad, I was waiting for this thread, we have that bead tool at our shop and I could meet you there some time and try a few pieces. If I get a chace this week I will run some though and send you a picture.
Doug
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02-01-2010, 10:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Winston Salem
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 524
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Pexto tool is 1k, ouch.
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Winston Salem, NC
WBCCI 5218,
Corresponding Secretary Piedmont NC Unit 161,
1967 Overlander International.
1979 Avion 30ft rear bath
TV's 88 Chevy Suburban 454, 3:42, TH400
95 Cadillac FW Brougham, LT1,3:42, 7k tow pk.
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02-01-2010, 10:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,986
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You're close to us, BradS - just a (relatively) few miles south! Maybe when we and you need help, we can help each other! Welcome!
Kay
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02-01-2010, 10:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Winston Salem
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 524
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Here is another source for a bead roller I just found,
Bead Roller
Mittler Brothers Electric Beadroller
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Greg
Winston Salem, NC
WBCCI 5218,
Corresponding Secretary Piedmont NC Unit 161,
1967 Overlander International.
1979 Avion 30ft rear bath
TV's 88 Chevy Suburban 454, 3:42, TH400
95 Cadillac FW Brougham, LT1,3:42, 7k tow pk.
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02-01-2010, 11:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' International CCD
1957 26' Overlander
Plymouth
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 554
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I dont know why I waited so long to do a project. This is an awesome community.
tinman54 I am glad to hear you have this tool, I have the feeling I may be interested in your assistance with this. I have started to get an understanding of what will be required to fabricate the end segments and would like to do it right. We will be talking in the near future. Glad to see your post! And thank you again.
Hi Kay what type of project are you working on? I am interested in talking.
I hope I can add something of value here, I sure have gained alot.
Im looking forward this!
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02-01-2010, 04:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,986
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Hi Brad,
Just to confuse you (as several people have pointed out), I’ll reply instead of Kay.
Last winter, about this time (well, right after the annual RV show at the Minneapolis Convention Center), is when we started looking for our AS. Found one in Mobile, AL in 2 weeks, and then, just like you, had to wait until Spring before we could go get her and bring her home. Sometimes, these MN winters are just too dang hard to put up with!
We have our 1972 31’ Sovereign, lovingly called Little Girl. Here’s our thread on what we’re doing, which is a complete Refurb: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f185/little-girl-refurb-50967.html.
Last year was spent doing all the deconstruction, and finally starting the reconstruction. That was a great turning point!
Chris
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02-01-2010, 07:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1954 25' Cruiser
Currently Looking...
Cruisin
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 683
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Segments
Hi Brad, Tried a couple samples today after work with some galvanized metal. After looking at the airstream there really is not to much of a bead on the edge but the bead roller or just a bend with the break both look pretty good.I shot a couple pictures but hard to get a good shot. Should be able to make something work when the time comes.
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02-01-2010, 07:52 PM
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Looking for time
1971 23' Safari
midland
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 154
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BradS----Pexto roller is expensive, new--but I found a tin-knocker who had extras--I bought one just like the above one pictured for 300.--good luck----jim
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02-01-2010, 08:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' International CCD
1957 26' Overlander
Plymouth
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 554
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tinman I didn't know how lucky I was going to be with this purchase. I look forward to seeing the results of your test bends.
My wife is dying to come out and see the trailer, we may request to make a social call in the near future.
Just a slight bend would seem to make fabricating panels easier.I look forward to getting one or two old segments off and seeing if the edges are straight or are they cut in a slight radius. I will stay in touch
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