View Poll Results: Filliform
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Have it feel like other campers stay back because it is contagious.
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14.71% |
Have it, everyone gets it so who cares.
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35.29% |
Lucky, don't have it or want it.
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29.41% |
Have it. I care and take the appropriate measures.
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23.53% |
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09-07-2012, 07:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Note that coastal Airstreams have significant filiform while those inland, especially in the southwest, have little to none. That is why we owners cannot predict a corrosion preventive treatment program for all. It depends on where you live and travel.
CorrosionX or Boeshield T9 applied to edges, rivets, and fittings after washings works. Removing corrosion carefully and reapplying a clearcoat works. Near coastal salt a more frequent and aggressive treament schedule is needed.
Don't be surprised if dealers don't mention it, when they do not treat there own stock trailers, nor fix corrosion on yours under any warranty. Airstream may do something "in good will" but don't count on it. It's up to you to maintain your trailer to the level you find necessary.
Set up a maintenance schedule that suits your climate/use to include washing, corrosion treatment, leak inspection, tire check, systems check, interior cleaning/pest inspection and winterization. The Airstream will last years longer and look good doing it.
doug k
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09-07-2012, 07:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by w7ts
Are you planning to wipe down the entire trailer with Boeshield? If so how much do you think it will take.
Ken
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I have found the protective paraffin wax in Boeshield to be messy and really hard to clean after it dries when applied all over the trailer. Instead I apply it with a Q-tip dipped in the spray cap one rivet, one edge (or scratch) at a time and wipe it off.
Personally I prefer using CorrosionX on the shell, spraying it on and wiping off with a microfiber cloth. I like Boeshield sprayed on underbody steel because it does leave the paraffin wax protective coating.
I don't see the value of waxing the trailer without corrosion treatment as the wax cannot protect the drilled holes under the rivets. I like Turtle Wax "Ice" product wiped on and off after washing, looks really good, removes water spots, won't whiten black plastic/rubber parts, and easy to use.
I buy several cans of these products and use them liberally, cheap insurance.
doug k
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09-07-2012, 09:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,809
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This question popped in my head and is not directed at anyone specifically, but does the use of treatments of CorrosionX or Boeshield weaken the bond between the aluminum and the sealers used on the mating surfaces? Anyone notice loose sealer at those areas?
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09-07-2012, 09:51 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1980 25' Excella II
St. Marys
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skater
Another option would be to go with an older trailer, from before they made whatever change that caused this problem. My '95 has no corrosion, thankfully.
There are many restorers around that can turn an older trailer into something nicer than what rolled out of Jackson Center, usually for less money than a new one.
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You will need to go older that 1980. My 1980 Ecella II has lots of it.
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09-07-2012, 10:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluto
This question popped in my head and is not directed at anyone specifically, but does the use of treatments of CorrosionX or Boeshield weaken the bond between the aluminum and the sealers used on the mating surfaces? Anyone notice loose sealer at those areas?
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It came to me as I was wiping it on as well. Both products are sold at the Airstream store and used by the Service Center. But no I don't see any evidence of loosening sealant, have used it for three years on two Airstreams.
doug k
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09-07-2012, 10:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Hi, my trailer has a little bit in the usual places. At first I thought that it was assembly glue, but later found out that it was corrosion. In eight years, it has only gained a few more little spots. I live 8.5 miles from the ocean and never wax my trailer. Many owners who have done all kinds of treatments have tons more corrosion than mine.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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09-07-2012, 10:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,966
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Quote:
Originally Posted by w7ts
Are you planning to wipe down the entire trailer with Boeshield? If so how much do you think it will take.
Ken
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A lot!.....but not as much as a 747!
Funny thing is that my friend flies a Boeing and he's never heard of the stuff. He was in a bad mood when I asked about it. "I only fly the **** thing - I'm not responsible for its care and feeding."
Sheesh! Must bring back many fond memories, right, Ken?
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09-07-2012, 11:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,495
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Filiform corrosion
Quote:
Originally Posted by bycrom
That is very interesting, I was just at that dealer about a month ago and did not notice this. Their website has detailed pictures of the majority of their units, looking at some of these pictures still not seeing the issue? ...
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Filiform in its beginning stages is not going to jump out at you if you do not know what to look for. As you can see in my photo below, filiform often starts out looking like very small filaments of whitish threadlike growth, especially on the cut edges of the aluminum panels and/or at the rivet holes.
The poll at the beginning of this thread leaves something to be desired. I wish there was the option to vote for: "Have it, I care and take the appropriate measures."
It is also disappointing that so far, there are only 20 votes out of 551 views of this thread!
More on Filiform corrosion and the appropriate protective measures I take are seen here: Filiform corrosion.
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09-07-2012, 11:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverGate
Filiform in its beginning stages is not going to jump out at you if you do not know what to look for. As you can see in my photo below, filiform often starts out looking like very small filaments of whitish threadlike growth, especially on the cut edges of the aluminum panels and/or at the rivet holes.
The poll at the beginning of this thread leaves something to be desired. I wish there was the option to vote for: "Have it, I care and take the appropriate measures."
It is also disappointing that so far, there are only 20 votes out of 551 views of this thread!
More on Filiform corrosion and the appropriate protective measures I take are seen here: Filiform corrosion.
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Hi, I didn't vote either. Choice number two is close, except for the ending "who cares?"
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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09-08-2012, 12:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,809
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
It came to me as I was wiping it on as well. Both products are sold at the Airstream store and used by the Service Center. But no I don't see any evidence of loosening sealant, have used it for three years on two Airstreams.
doug k
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d,
Thanks!
Did you hear a big sigh of relief coming from my direction?
I don't have a problem with corrosion yet, but I use the products proactively too, just to make sure it stays away.
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09-08-2012, 05:42 AM
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Shiny Drag-on
Currently Looking...
Drag-on
, California
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 46
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Lets fix the poll
"The poll at the beginning of this thread leaves something to be desired. I wish there was the option to vote for: "Have it, I care and take the appropriate measures."
It is also disappointing that so far, there are only 20 votes out of 551 views of this thread!"
So let fix the poll so more people can and will vote. I am not sure how this could be done, but will sure try. If you know how to change the poll let me know and I will change to desired poll questions. Tell me what poll questions you think would be more affective. Thanks so far for for all the information. You all have given me a lot to think about and different ways to view living with Filiform.
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09-08-2012, 09:11 AM
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Moderator
Vintage Kin Owner
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny Dragon
"The poll at the beginning of this thread leaves something to be desired. I wish there was the option to vote for: "Have it, I care and take the appropriate measures."
It is also disappointing that so far, there are only 20 votes out of 551 views of this thread!"
So let fix the poll so more people can and will vote. I am not sure how this could be done, but will sure try. If you know how to change the poll let me know and I will change to desired poll questions. Tell me what poll questions you think would be more affective. Thanks so far for for all the information. You all have given me a lot to think about and different ways to view living with Filiform.
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Done!
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09-08-2012, 09:14 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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I really need to change my vote. While doing some body work yesterday, I found 4 spots below the center beltline molding. Corrosion-X attack! I can't complain I guess, 6 years old.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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09-08-2012, 09:40 AM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,966
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El Stinkaroonie!!!!
Living in Canada is nice......except you often have to deal with this!!
Boeshield Canada
So I get onto the Corrosion X site as an alternative, and the only dealers are in Alberta.
Edit: Found one place on Vancouver Island!
http://www.sealandaviation.com/index.php
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09-08-2012, 10:01 AM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly at Night
Living in Canada is nice......except you often have to deal with this!!
Boeshield Canada
So I get onto the Corrosion X site as an alternative, and the only dealers are in Alberta.
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It says you can buy it from Boeshield USA.
Aw, come on,.. We need the money...
Ken
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09-08-2012, 11:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,966
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This poll is starting to sound more like a social disease.
In that case, my selection still stands: Lucky, don't have it or want it.
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09-08-2012, 12:28 PM
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Home of Vortex tuning
2013 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Spearfish
, South Dakota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 614
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Does a full polish on bare aluminum alleviate the need for touchups on the clear coat to prevent this corrosion?
If so,
need another box to check on the poll
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09-09-2012, 04:17 AM
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King of the Zebra Speedo
Obrien
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,439
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I was going to check the "If I have it, I've been too busy tearing apart my trailer to fix the frame to notice" box, but didn't find that either...
-Red
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Somebody ought to clean these windows. There is a tremendous buildup of gook all over them...
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08-18-2013, 02:58 PM
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AIR #6370
2001 27' Safari
Bella Vista
, Arkansas
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 68
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Filiform Corrison
I have it , but not too bad. I wish to treat it, but a chemist I am not. There are a host of Web sites that describe it, but few recommendations for treating it. When I first noticed it, I thought it was mud splatters but found out otherwise. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Hmsteader AIR #6370
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08-18-2013, 04:06 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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hm', read the thread I have linked. I know it is a little long, but you'll know every theory and treatment imaginable. Robert Cross has a pretty good handle on it.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ams-31743.html
You don't have to be a chemist, but you do have to exercise some judgment and be willing to carefully go through the steps to solve it and keep at it, or move to a desert far from salt air and road salt.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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