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Old 11-22-2008, 07:32 PM   #15
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Shari,

Great job. Let me add something to what you said. There's another style of rivet used on Airstreams: tubular squeezed rivets. You see them in the assembly of old windows and other items. They have solid heads but the shafts are hollow and squeeze with a special squeeze tool quite easily. Unlike buck or blind (Pop or Olympic) rivets, tubular rivets leave a nice finished look on both the front and the back of the rivet. It requires the rivets be within an inch or two of the edge of the material so the yoke of the squeezer can get to both sides. In fact, if you have a solid "buck" rivet near the edge of the material, you can squeeze solid rivets with the same hand squeezer tool. A good example of that would be installation of the rivet-on door gasket used on 1956 and earlier Airstreams. Hand squeezers cost about $125 to $150.

One other thing: There are many types of rivets made under the Olympic name. Only one type are used on Airstreams. They're called Olympic Bulb-Tite Shavable Head rivets in size 5/32".
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Old 11-23-2008, 12:06 AM   #16
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You're right...it's an AirSTREAM not an AirPLANE!

Thanks Steve...as you know, we have used our fair share of Olympics this year, always needing one more bag than we ordered! We recently replaced a previously replaced panel on our GT - over 300 Olympics just for that project! WOW! But it looks great, if I do say so myself - and there was no way we were going to disassemble our entire interior for the panel replacement. Thanks for suppling those - geez, I went to our local Airstream dealership to pick up "a couple more" for the weekend, and they wanted $.79 each! Needless to say, we just put off that project until the next weekend until our order from you arrived!

We have one of those squeezers you posted about - we used it with soft solid rivets near the edges of the wheel wells and doors - they are great - much less of a chance of jumping off the head and marring the skin...and you don't have to shave them.

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Old 02-27-2009, 09:00 AM   #17
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How to install buck type rivets?

Hello,

I have a 65 A.S. Land Yacht Trade Wind. I've been trying to find information on installing the buck type rivets. I understand they need to be done from both sides so the interior needs to be removed. My question is how do you go about installing them (what tools are needed and what is the technique). Any information would be much appreciated. Also if there are any pictures or video's out there that would be great.

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Old 02-27-2009, 11:44 AM   #18
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Hi Brian, there are some good guides to riveting in this forum. This thread has a lot of information:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f381...ment-9362.html

But to answer your question, you'll need a 3x air rivet gun (looks a lot like an air hammer but has more precise control), and obviously the air compressor to drive the rivet gun, and you'll need "bucking bar" for the backside. Bucking bars come in all shapes and sizes, but it is simply a piece of flat, hard steel with some kind of handle or place to hold it. Its purpose is to act as a backing plate for the rivet that is driven from the front side. Unless you're bucking rivets around a doorway or open window, you'll probably need a helper to hold the bucking bar still on the backside, while you hammer the rivets from the front side.

Here's a picture of the process on a test scrap of aluminum, taken at the recent Texas State Vintage Rally:



The guy to the left is holding the rivet gun against the front of the rivet, while the guy on the right has one hand holding the bucking bar to the backside. As the rivet gun hammers the front of the rivet, the opposite force exerted on the back of the rivet by the bucking bar causes the rivet to expand into the hole and squeeze your sheet metal together from the front and back (or something like that, I'm certainly not an expert).

I definitely advise reading the thread I linked above. It is lengthy, but full of great information.

Good luck!
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:48 PM   #19
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Marcus thanks for the help. I just finished reading all the info you sent. I have one dent in the upper left of my trailer and I plan on trying to pull it out with a suction cup. I hope it works otherwise I'll be replacing it. I also have some sides that are creased and the bottom front belly has some dents. I'll take some pictures and hopefully show my progress.

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Old 02-28-2009, 02:12 AM   #20
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I concur with the posts in this thread! Use buck rivets if at all possible. When we restored our Bambi, my hubby used the air gun and I bucked the rivets! We feel much more secure with the structural parts... we also used some Olympic rivets on interior panels... and use them if we have to make a small repair. The difference in cost is minor compared to structural safety in my book...

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Old 02-28-2009, 09:33 AM   #21
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I concur with the posts in this thread! Use buck rivets if at all possible. When we restored our Bambi, my hubby used the air gun and I bucked the rivets! We feel much more secure with the structural parts... we also used some Olympic rivets on interior panels... and use them if we have to make a small repair. The difference in cost is minor compared to structural safety in my book...

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Yes, the really good news is that solid rivets are a heck of a lot cheaper than Olympic rivets. Of course, you need the correct tools to drive the solid rivets, and rivet guns aren't cheap, but if you need to do a LOT of rivets, and you have access to both sides (in other words, the interior panels are pulled out), then the solid bucked rivets will end up being cheaper, even including the investment for the tools.

And then you have some cool new tools too, right?

Speaking of which, it's time for me to get outside and check out my new rivet gun and bucking bar-- I have an exterior panel patch to replace!
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