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Old 05-13-2010, 01:47 PM   #1
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Best approach to repair this damage?

I'm thinking about buying a '58 Flying Cloud. The biggest issue with the trailer is the damaged skin on the streetside wheel area caused by a tire blowout. This is a pretty common problem from blowouts but I haven't seen damage this bad before.

What's the best approach to repair this? A scab over the damaged area? Or replacing a section of the skin. I realize that the best way might not be the cheapest. Just curious what opinions are and what others have done.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-13-2010, 02:06 PM   #2
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They usually overlay the skin on the lower side panels to cover damage.
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Old 05-13-2010, 02:34 PM   #3
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Mike:

For me this would be too big of a rip to patch. I would replace the panel. This panel would not be that hard to replace, as it is a side panel (how long is the panel?) You drill out the rivets to remove the old panel, overlay the ripped panel to the new panel. You then have the full template for the cuts and holes in the new aluminum. Then reverse and install with Olympics rivets (with Vulkem on every Olympic). Two guys could get this done in a few hours of a Saturday.

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Old 05-13-2010, 02:50 PM   #4
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For me this would be too big of a rip to patch. I would replace the panel. This panel would not be that hard to replace, as it is a side panel (how long is the panel?) You drill out the rivets to remove the old panel, overlay the ripped panel to the new panel. You then have the full template for the cuts and holes in the new aluminum. Then reverse and install with Olympics rivets (with Vulkem on every Olympic). Two guys could get this done in a few hours of a Saturday.
Tim, the trailer body is 19' long (it's 22' overall) so I would imagine that the panel is probably 14-16' long. How much would a sheet of aluminum like that cost?
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Old 05-13-2010, 03:43 PM   #5
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So there is no break in that one sheet between the end caps? You might consider cutting off the panel at a rib in front and back of the rip, creating say an 8' panel that you would replace. I can't see exactly the view of your full panel in picture #1. If you did have to buy a full 14'-16', you would want to buy it in a rolled up sheet. It would be buy the foot, and I believe there are 4' wide. I am not near my catelog for a cost, but I believe you need T3-2025 .025".
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If it's a 22' trailer the panel is going to be in the neighborhood of 12 to 13 ft. .032 2024-T3 alclad. I replaced mine with .040. Panel replacement is the best option.
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I'd also be thinking about if/when another tire blow-out or tread loss happens - cutting and covering might be good insurance...
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If it's a 22' trailer the panel is going to be in the neighborhood of 12 to 13 ft. .032 2024-T3 alclad. I replaced mine with .040. Panel replacement is the best option.
Good catch! I must have been thinking belly pan. Of course .032!
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Tim, the trailer body is 19' long (it's 22' overall) so I would imagine that the panel is probably 14-16' long. How much would a sheet of aluminum like that cost?
I recently measured ny 1955 22' Safari in case I want to replace the streetside lower skin. In my case that panel was exactly 12' long and just over 3' high. I'll probably have to by a 12' x 4' sheet and cut it down. I assume this trailer would be similar.
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I damaged the entire lower half panel of our '66 Trade Wind. Our insurance paid for the whole thing. All that we paid for was the gas to take the trailer to Toscanos in Los Banos, Ca. The invoice showed that the 14' x 4' 2420 alclad aluminum cost $1200. The job was $3200 and took 12 hours. I located the alumunum source...I'll look it up for you if you need it.
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I damaged the entire lower half panel of our '66 Trade Wind. Our insurance paid for the whole thing. All that we paid for was the gas to take the trailer to Toscanos in Los Banos, Ca. The invoice showed that the 14' x 4' 2420 alclad aluminum cost $1200. The job was $3200 and took 12 hours. I located the alumunum source...I'll look it up for you if you need it.
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That aluminum price is some what inflated.

Overall the job was about $1200 above the current flat rate manuals.

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That aluminum price is some what inflated.
Right. By about 600%.

Should be able to get a sheet of aluminum for around $200, FOB Aircraft Spruce.

It takes more than a couple of hours on Saturday to do the job though. You'll also need some edge trim for around the wheel well and some repair of the crunched up bellypan.
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It takes more than a couple of hours on Saturday to do the job though.
I would agree this job is a little bigger than first envisioned. I did not account for the belly pan or wheel trim work. Having said that, 3 of us replaced a 4x8' (cut to 3x8') sheet from start to finish in less than 4 hours. This included a cut around a window. Since this sheet is 12', and taking into account the belly pan and wheel trim, I'll stop guessing the clock turns.
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Hi Mike,

If it were my trailer, I'd replace the entire panel. I think that's the best option in maintaining the look of the trailer without it looking like it was patched. My 2 cents.

Good luck with the project, whatever you decide to do.

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