Anyone know what kind and size rivets are on the window frames?

[deepsea]

Anyone know what kind and size rivets are on the window frames? They are a little smaller than the rivets everywhere else.

Thanks
Joe

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by deepsea27

Anyone know what kind and size rivets are on the window frames? They are a little smaller than the rivets everywhere else.

Thanks
Joe

Aircraft Spruce has them.
Andy

[deepsea]

Thanks Andy any idea on the style and size?

[Bfrank]

5/32 olympic rivits should do the job at least thats what they used at Jackson Center when I was watching a tech replace a panel cut out a window and set a window frame in the hole he also used a thin double back tape for a seal on the inside lip of the frame. He set the frame then drilled the holes pulled rivets in the corners to hold it where he wanted it and drilled the other holes pulled the rest of the olympics. Hope this helps.

Bfrank

[deepsea]

Here is a pic of the rivets I'm looking for. I have the larger rivets now I need the smaller ones.

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by deepsea27

Here is a pic of the rivets I'm looking for. I have the larger rivets now I need the smaller ones.

The very small rivets are used to attach the window hinge, and to rivet the window sash (metal around the glass) to the steel bar that's within the sash, that holds the 2 pieces of sash together.

They are available from Aircraft Spruce. The spec number is AN 470 AD and the size is 1/4 inch shank X 1/8 inch diameter.

But, they only sell them in 1/8 or 1/4 pound packages.

Also, they are green in color (alodine). That can easily be removed by soaking them in "Limeaway" for a few days.

Airstream does not sell that small rivet, unfortunately.

They are very cheap, but even the small package of them will contain several hundred.

Andy

[Aerowood]

P/N for those rivets is MS20470AD4-3 0r -4. Send me a PM with an address and I'll mail you a few of each size.

I just went out and looked at my trailer and I believe that they are MS20470AD3's. Regardless of what they could be, I can send both sizes.

I get my rivets here

http://www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com/

[cosmos111]

Hi Andy,

I went to the Aircraft Spruce site and they don't seem to carry anything with that spec number anymore. I did find solid aluminum-countersunk rivets 1/8" X 1/4" (AN426AD-4-4). Is that the right item for the window hinge? Thanks so much for your help!

Laura

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by cosmos111

Hi Andy,

I went to the Aircraft Spruce site and they don't seem to carry anything with that spec number anymore. I did find solid aluminum-countersunk rivets 1/8" X 1/4" (AN426AD-4-4). Is that the right item for the window hinge? Thanks so much for your help!

Laura

Laura.

Countersunk buck rivets are not used anywhere on an Airstream.

Using the normal dome head shaped rivets work fine.

Andy

[cosmos111]

Thanks Andy!! I found them

[cosmos111]

And these are the rivets that need to be installed with a rivet gun and bucking bar, right? I'm using blind rivets for the other repairs and so don't own a pneumatic riveter. What exactly is the procedure for getting them in place? Sorry to ask such basic questions..I'm just getting started. Thanks!

[Inland RV Center, In]

Originally Posted by cosmos111

And these are the rivets that need to be installed with a rivet gun and bucking bar, right? I'm using blind rivets for the other repairs and so don't own a pneumatic riveter. What exactly is the procedure for getting them in place? Sorry to ask such basic questions..I'm just getting started. Thanks!

It's nearly impossible to do "buck riveting" without a riveting tool.

A steel bar must be on the backside, and the riveter on the front side of the rivet.

It normally takes two people to buck rivet, unless you can reach both sides of the rivet yourself.

Or you can use a hammer and rivet set on the outside, and have someone hold the steel bar on the inside.

Otherwise, use "Olympic rivets", but they won't work on window hinges.

Andy