View Poll Results: What finish for that old-time 50's look?
Spar Varnish? 9 32.14%
Shellac? 6 21.43%
Tung Oil? 5 17.86%
Polyurethane? 4 14.29%
Other - please explain 4 14.29%
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Old 02-07-2009, 03:59 PM   #15
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Road Trip ! May I suggest that you go to Home Depot or ? and pick up a good size piece of wood similar to the wood in your AS, then a small can each of the finishes you are considering and do sample boards. That way you can see the finish and workability of each coating. It shouldn't cost to much. Don't rule out the new water borne clear coats until you give them a try, gloss finish re-coat in 45 min. When applying an oil base Spar Varnish do not apply it to thick, it will skim over before it dries and the solvents will not evaporate and the finish will wrinkle, thin coats are best. Again Good Luck
I'm in process of doing that this weekend. I have leftover veneer and the inside of one cabinet "in testing" as we speak.

The helps with the color...not so much with the long term durability ~

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Old 02-07-2009, 04:01 PM   #16
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I guess I'm the only Shellac lover here, but that is what I put on all my 81 excella cabinets and even the table, I have venered all cabinets with bamboo then shellac 2 or 3 coats (like 10 min between coats) then I sealed with a water based poly. Holding up well and the reason I used the shallac is the color it gives the cabinets. On the 68 Ambassador I'm just using a low sheen polyurathane or varnish to give the waxed look for the walnut walls.
Hmmm...interesting! I love the look of the shellac - if the poly would give it more durability, you might be onto something there ~

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Sounds like a 'go' then, Shari. Not like Lily or MrInsideOut don't care for Birdy just like you.

I haven't really voted in the poll but could tally behind shellac if it helps. Spar varnish just sounds more piratical though. Aaaaarghh!
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:01 PM   #18
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Not like Lily or MrInsideOut don't care for Birdy just like you.
Yeah and of course, Lily's vote counts double!

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Old 02-07-2009, 08:43 PM   #19
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Deft Brushing Lacquer.
Been using it for 30+ years and I Love it.
Penetrates, drys quick, good solid finish. Repairs easily, clean your wax off and the new coat will melt the old finish and your repair will disappear.
Two to three coats then finish with a Carnuba Wax cover.
The only thing to look out for is the smell, it will knock you flat, use lots of ventilation.
http://www.deftfinishes.com/trade/as...log%20Page.pdf
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I'm partial to shellac to seal the wood then thinned down poly wiped on with a staining pad. I sometimes tint the poly to give a little color. After the poly is on, a glaze coat of gel stain can also be used to richen things up a bit , then more thinned down and wiped on poly.
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Kip ~

Do you use water or oil based polyurethane over the shellac?

I have a test sample of shellac with oil based polyurethane right now...I didn't have water based - will pick some up tomorrow. So far it looks good.

The first coat of spar varnish on my sample is still tacky...I'm afraid my work conditions are not clean enough or warm enough right now to do all those coats of all the cabinets and sit around waiting for it to dry - we do want to finish this project this year!

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If it was easy everyone would be doing it. Major props from those in the know for good finishes. Boo to cheap plasticky looking finishes.
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Kip ~

Do you use water or oil based polyurethane over the shellac?

I have a test sample of shellac with oil based polyurethane right now...I didn't have water based - will pick some up tomorrow. So far it looks good.

The first coat of spar varnish on my sample is still tacky...I'm afraid my work conditions are not clean enough or warm enough right now to do all those coats of all the cabinets and sit around waiting for it to dry - we do want to finish this project this year!

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I use oil base, I think it flows out better, but I have not tried water for some years now. I don,t like the Spar Varnish because it takes so blessed long to dry. Mineral spirit thinned ploy drys fairly fast and, and if its wiped on, it keeps all of the nibs out of the finish. I then put the pad in a baggy and freeze until needed for next coat, so no cleanup. I just use disposable latex gloves to keep the mess of my hands. If you need to sand between coats I just use fine steel wool.
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Shari, You do not have all year for this project.
I have to say that I do enjoy all the suggestions from everyone with more knowledge and experience than you or I.
This is what I suggest. Go out and get a small can of Helmsman Spar Urethane from Minwax. It comes in gloss, semi-gloss and satin finishes. Apply two or three coats with a foam brush, a little light sanding between coats.
You will be happy with the results. The directions are simple, drying times are fast and the time saved will make you happy.
This is a great thread and I am looking forward to seeing what you decide, and what your finish job looks like.
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If it was easy everyone would be doing it. Major props from those in the know for good finishes. Boo to cheap plasticky looking finishes.
I agree - for those that can take the time and control their work conditions (cleanliness & temperature). We know our limitations, sorry to disappoint you. I think a poorly applied Spar Varnish looks worse - I think you would agree. I just don't want junk imbedded in the layers because it doesn't dry fast enough in our less than controlled working environment.

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I have to say that I do enjoy all the suggestions from everyone with more knowledge and experience than you or I.
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is a great thread and I am looking forward to seeing what you decide, and what your finish job looks like.
I'll definitely let you know what we decide and of course, post pics!

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I have been a professional finisher for many years and love hearing the opinions on the different finish products out there. My personal choice for cabinetry in a trailer would be either lacquer or a quality oil based varnish. I often use cut orange shellac as a first coat as it will give a nice amber tone and a depth to the finish. Polyurethanes are not something I don't use as they tend to discolor over time and are hard to repair. Sheen is just a matter of preference as most products are avilable in whatever you like.

For my own trailer I used a varnish finish since I finished most of the cabinets in place and did not want to risk damage to the fridge or catalytic heater from lacquer overspray. This meant a lot more work and drying time . I have some pictures posted ander "refinished at last".

Reguardless of the finish you choose, protect it. A good coat of paste wax (such as Johnsons) works wonders.
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So I have taken everybody's input and done a series of tests. Attached is a list of the samples we are testing and products we are using. I'll post pictures after the final coat and let you know what we decide.

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Lookin forward to the pics of the samples.
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