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Old 07-09-2010, 08:35 PM   #57
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In my opinion, if you get that title in hand when you close the deal, and get all the paperwork going, you'll be fine. Just need to prove you have all the legalities in process and you didn't steal it. I rode around with a piece of masking tape where the tag was supposed to be, with the text, "Tag available -- inquire within" until my repairs caught up with installation of the tag bracket. I would have taped the tag on the inside of the rear bathroom window, which would have been even more trailer park cachet, but the window was very dark Plexiglas and you couldn't see it. I was never pulled over. But, I was also not on the road as much as you will be. Now I'm all legal and tagged and still have attracted only fun attention like people pulling alongside giving us the thumbs up.

As for the coverage, I guess you might get a temporary rider on the tow vehicle policy or something like that.

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Thanks Anne!

Yeah, everything about us is in Kansas right now. We're both born & raised Kansans. We own a house here, I work here, we have insurance and drivers licenses and vehicle registrations here, we vote here, etc.

Our plan is to establish domicile in South Dakota, for all the reasons folks choose South Dakota for that purpose. That starts with signing up with a mail forwarding service so we have an address to use on other legal filings, like our vehicle registrations.

My concern is that I don't want to do that sooner-than-necessary. I'd like to wait until late-August/September, closer to when we hope to depart, just to save a bit of money. But if that's ridiculous, I'm fine with starting that sooner. The mail forwarding address is only $10 or so per month. Vehicle registration and insurance is likely CHEAPER there than in Kansas, so that might actually COVER the cost of the mail forwarding address itself.

But my real question is whether I HAVE TO do that stuff before I take possession of a used trailer, when I'm going to haul it home (2 or 3 days max) and then stick it in storage for a couple months? What happens if the 30 days registration/insurance bubble lapses? Will I have trouble registering/insuring it in SD when I finally get around to it?

I guess the first thing is to talk to my current insurance provider (Progressive) to see if they'll extend liability/collision to the trailer when I haul it home. (Except, if I'm borrowing my dad's truck, perhaps it is HIS insurance I need to look into!?) Argh!!!
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:37 AM   #58
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Wherever you buy it will have different rules on plates. Since you plan to be on the road, groups like Escapees can register it in a state since you will be stateless. It might be cheaper than using a relative's address. Trailer insurance—probably you can attach it to your auto policy for 30 days as was posted until you get title solved. A vehicle can't have plates, even temporary, and then be un-plated while you work on it in some states. If so, I'd un-plate mine over winter. If you ship it via flatbed to Kansas, you may solve some of this. On the road, what about driver's licenses? A relative's addresses will help, but there are groups like Escapees for that too.

Health insurance will be more difficult. It's sold by state and out of state illnesses can be a very big hassle. Individual policies are very expensive and you know that if you've priced them. Sometimes you can get health insurance through a organization you are involved with.

I thought the PanAmerican was a good idea. I guess, after re-reading your first post, all you really wanted to know was about issues with removing the bed and wall scars. If the Safari/FC underbed is different than the International, best to get more info. In our Safari, the carpet goes all the way under the bed, but will be crushed flat under the bed supports. Hot water and a spoon to re-fluff it may work. I'm unsure just how the head of the bed is attached, if it is, to the wall.

We have the lovely shining aluminum walls and love them. Not everyone has the same taste in walls or beds. So be it. Good luck and I hope you find what you want and it works for you. Never slept in a trunk and I thought that was the Mafia's specialty.

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Old 07-27-2010, 01:43 PM   #59
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Click "Classifieds" Click Late model units. Go down about 7 ads. And he's in TEXAS. (You'll just generally find about 5 queens for every twin.)
Just wanted to update this thread to say we bought our trailer this weekend, the very one Paula mentioned early on. THANKS PAULA! It's a 2007 27' International CCD with twins.

We made a whirlwind tour of Oklahoma & Texas, looking at many units, but decided this was the one. It was lovingly cared for by a great couple in Justin, TX and we felt very comfortable buying from them.

We got it home, peeled off their WBCCI stickers (we'll get our own, I think) and hand-washed & waxed it. She's a beauty! Unfortunately, we had to leave her in storage at my folks' until we get our house sold and can move down there to make our customizations (compiling a HUGE list, including the ones this thread is based on).

Thanks again for everyone's help. I plan on starting a new thread to introduce ourselves and our new trailer once everything gets settled in and we're able to get some photos (in 2 weeks).

(Also, I must say that the 2009 27' CCD with twins that we looked at at PPL Motor Homes in Houston, TX had water damage and buyers should avoid it (or be aware of this). I've taken photos and I'd like to start a thread to point it out to people who might be interested. Where would I do that? I had to peel back the linoleum under the dinette and it was black & moldy).

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Old 07-27-2010, 03:59 PM   #60
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Josh,

Glad you found the trailer for you. Like all things, choices evolve and the final product may significantly differ from the original dream.

The water damaged trailer may be one of the Georgia flooded Airstreams that were around in the past year. Check out this thread: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f351...ed+%2B+georgia

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Old 07-27-2010, 04:06 PM   #61
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The water damaged trailer may be one of the Georgia flooded Airstreams that were around in the past year. Check out this thread: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f351...ed+%2B+georgia
It's possible, but the damage was neither disclosed or reflected in the price. My wife noticed the laminate peeling from the floor under the dinette, so I peeled it back by hand and noticed it was black & moldy and I could dig my fingernail into the subfloor). We had already spent a half hour looking over the trailer and *everything* looked pretty terrific. When we noticed the water damage, we waved our hands at Houston and booked it back to Dallas.

I don't want someone getting taken. I'm pretty sure that since I peeled the flooring back, anyone else even marginally careful will notice.

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congrats on da stream...

hand wash and wax?

NOW that's my sorta dedication, a clean stream is a happy stream.

so condition really does matter...

and it pays to look UNDER stuff.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f349...nal-67047.html

best o'luck with jettisoning the house and most worldly possessions...

in preparation for stream living.

when is the garage sale?

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Old 07-27-2010, 06:04 PM   #63
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Just wanted to update this thread to say we bought our trailer this weekend, the very one Paula mentioned early on. THANKS PAULA! It's a 2007 27' International CCD with twins.
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You are more than welcome Josh. I'd talked to the former owner and he seemed like a very nice guy. I'm happy for both of you!

As for the other one with damage under the dinette, I found some leaks around the rear window and the rear bumper that fortunately I caught early. If your 2007 has always been garaged that's the biggest reason it's still good. Keep an eagle eye on that area after any heavy rain. Most of my leaks were around the bumper, but I also had one above the window that leaked between inside and outside walls.

(One of the GREAT hints from this forum on how to achieve neat seam seals was to use blue painters tape on both sides of the seam before applying vulkem or any other appropriate sealer... let it harden slightly and pull off the tape.)

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Just an FYI, that black, moldy stuff may actually just be the plywood water sealant the factory puts around the edges.
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Just an FYI, that black, moldy stuff may actually just be the plywood water sealant the factory puts around the edges.
I found the same thing on mine when I removed the couch and carpet. I came to the conclusion that the stain was sealer.
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hand wash and wax? NOW that's my sorta dedication, a clean stream is a happy stream.
There's really no better way to get intimately familiar with something (or someone) than a detailed hand washing. So now my wife knows the inside, and I know the out. Next time I'll get up on the roof and inspect/clean, and she'll finish the fridge/bathroom/windows.

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so condition really does matter... and it pays to look UNDER stuff.
We were pretty meticulous, and our decision absolutely came down to condition. Nothing could make up for the care & attention the previous owners gave to their 'stream.

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best o'luck with jettisoning the house and most worldly possessions... when is the garage sale?
Listed our house for sale a week ago today. Having our first open house this weekend. Seriously considering offering it "furnished" so we can avoid any more serious garage sales (already had two early this year). Here's our house website in case you know anyone wanting to move to Manhattan, KS: 9078 Tonya Terrace ? Manhattan, Kansas | For Sale
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I'd talked to the former owner and he seemed like a very nice guy.

One of the GREAT hints from this forum on how to achieve neat seam seals was to use blue painters tape on both sides of the seam before applying vulkem or any other appropriate sealer... let it harden slightly and pull off the tape.
They were a very nice couple and torn about selling their beloved trailer. That really helped us make up our mind.

I am considering resealing all the seams while we're "making her our own". Lots of projects, and this sounds like a good one to add to the list.

I'm also thinking about taking all the outside trim pieces off (the 1" rounded piece that covers regular screws). It is peeling off in one place and terribly dirty behind it. Seems like another good housekeeping project.
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Just an FYI, that black, moldy stuff may actually just be the plywood water sealant the factory puts around the edges.
I assumed that was the case, but there is definitely mold underneath too. My wife can smell water damage from a mile away and is sure of it. Plus, like I said, I could almost stick my finger through the wood. But good to know the black coating on the wood is normal.

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