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01-29-2011, 10:58 PM
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#61
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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Wow!
Looks Great. I don't know why you think you're not making progress. It probably took me 3 month's to finish the galley and dinette. Keep up the beautiful work.
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01-30-2011, 08:12 AM
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#62
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lucymcdog
Not much progress but at least we're having fun.
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Really?! Looks good to me!
Better to take your time and do things well than to hurry-scurry and end up with a mess. Lucy looks like she approves...
Shari
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01-30-2011, 09:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,989
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Wow!!!! Double wow even!! Looks great, plus, you're having fun!
So, when I get to that point, I can start asking you for advice?!
Love Lucy. What kind of puppy is she?
Chris
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01-30-2011, 12:33 PM
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#64
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4 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
Starkville
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minno
What kind of puppy is she?
Chris
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A very spoiled one!
Blue heeler/border colllie mix.
Good to hear from you again - I've missed you!
Lindy
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01-30-2011, 12:39 PM
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#65
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,989
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I've been keeping up on your progress on this project. Just not much to contribute this time.
Lucy is very pretty. Never heard of a Blue Heeler before.
Chris
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01-30-2011, 12:54 PM
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#66
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4 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
Starkville
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Really?! Looks good to me!
Better to take your time and do things well than to hurry-scurry and end up with a mess.
Shari
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We've learned the hard way that you can't hurry-scurry with an Airstream!
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02-10-2011, 09:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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So Lindy:
Did you get the brakes working before you took the trailer to the top of the pass?
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02-11-2011, 07:07 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
Starkville
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TG Twinkie
So Lindy:
Did you get the brakes working before you took the trailer to the top of the pass?
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I did! And they worked just fine (thank goodness!)
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02-11-2011, 11:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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Axle
It's up to you to decide. But if it were my trailer and since it has leaf springs, not torsion bar; and the brakes work and it has good bearings. I would check the bushings and shackles at each end of the leaf springs. If there is no slop in the bushings and none of the leafs are broken. I would not replace the axle. Are there grease zerts for the bushings.
Of coarse I don't know what a new axle costs. And what piece of mind is worth.
If you decide to replace it, don't throw the old one away.
OH! I saw a trailer (I think it's the same as yours) for sale on Tin Can Tourist; it's in Marion, KS. It's a 1960 Traveler.
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02-12-2011, 06:42 AM
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#70
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4 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
Starkville
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TG Twinkie
It's up to you to decide. But if it were my trailer and since it has leaf springs, not torsion bar; and the brakes work and it has good bearings. I would check the bushings and shackles at each end of the leaf springs. If there is no slop in the bushings and none of the leafs are broken. I would not replace the axle. Are there grease zerts for the bushings.
Of coarse I don't know what a new axle costs. And what piece of mind is worth.
If you decide to replace it, don't throw the old one away.
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Is that something I can do or do I get the RV place to do it? Why keep the old axle if I decide to replace it? None of the leafs look broken but they are quite rusty.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TG Twinkie
OH! I saw a trailer (I think it's the same as yours) for sale on Tin Can Tourist; it's in Marion, KS. It's a 1960 Traveler.
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I saw that one a couple of weeks ago on e-bay. Must not have sold, I guess. It is offered by the Airstream Guy. very tempting...
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02-12-2011, 11:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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When it comes to keeping the old axle. I'm a dinosaur from the last century, I always think. "I might have a use for that someday". So I keep stuff around for years before I throw it away. Then after I throw it out I find that I could have used it.LOL
I am also of the philosophy "If it ain't broke don't fix it". The way I look at it is; and there are pluses and minus' to this. First not knowing how many miles the trailer has on it, maybe very few, maybe a lot. Also the fact that any new axle I buy may not be constucted as well as the original, ie Chinese Steel and other parts. But again I'm from the last century.
The springs are attached to the frame via a device known as a "perch", which is a "U" shaped device where the spring is attached with a bolt thru the perch and the "eye" (a loop or hole on the end of the spring). Inside the eye of the spring there is usually a bushing, kind of like a piece of pipe that the bolt goes thru. The other end of the spring is attached to the perch with what is called "shackles". On this end of the spring there are two bolts and their associated bushings; The eye of the spring is attached to one end of the shackle and the other end of the shackle is attached to the perch.
If the mobile or free end of the springs don't have shackles, they will be held up by a simple rectangular loop where the longest leaf of the spring can just slide back and forth within the loop as the length changes. This system has even fewer points that wear. Only one bolt and bushing in the eye of the spring at the opposite end.
As you know the springs have an arch in them and as weight is added and removed or the trailer bounces the arc flattens out causing the spring to get longer and shorter. The shackle is there to accomodate this changing length.
Springs are made from hardened steel and rarely are effected by any rust, which is mostly surface rust. If the springs have been immobile for some time; in your case I think you said it sat for 17 years. It would be a good idea to give them a good dose of penetrating oil just to losen the rust in between the leaves and allow them to slide more freely, because they do rub against each other as they change length.
You can check for wear a couple of ways. Either by removing the bolt(s) at each end of the spring and lowering the eye of the spring down to where you can see the eye and its bushing. If worn severely the bushing will have a hole thru it that is really egg shaped and out of round and the bolts shank will be worn and out of shape. If the bushing is not worn too severely it could just be a matter of replacing the bolt with a new one.
Of course you will have to raise the trailer and remove the tire (just to get weight off of the suspension).
The other way is to raise the trailer and block it so it won't fall and then use another jack, like a hydraulic bottle jack, first under one end of the spring. Push on it just enough to see if there is any significant movement of the eye of the spring relative to the perch or shackle. If not the bushings are probably OK.
With either method make sure the trailer is blocked to prevent it from falling. I'm sure you did this when you checked out the brakes.
If the brakes become inoperative sometime down the road and since parts are no longer available from what I understand. Then it might be time to replace the axle. Even if this happens I would search out new back plate assemblies and drums that would bolt to the end of the original axle before I replaced the entire axle assembly.
I would think that parts like bearings and seals would be available at most auto parts stores.
I would bet that with all of the "Canned Ham" trailers on the road today most of which are probably running the same axle as your trailer that there are still bearings and seals that will fit.
Some of my farm equipment is over 70 years old and I can find bearings and seals at most auto parts stores.
So for what it's worth.
How's the dinette coming along?
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02-20-2011, 02:17 PM
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#72
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4 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
Starkville
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 309
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dinette progress
I still have the curbside cushions to cover but this is what progress has been made so far...
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02-21-2011, 08:14 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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Wow!
Looks great. Did you cover the cushions yourself? I like the grill work on the front of the seat bottom. Should give you plenty of air circulation for the converter.
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02-21-2011, 08:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
Starkville
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TG Twinkie
Looks great. Did you cover the cushions yourself? I like the grill work on the front of the seat bottom. Should give you plenty of air circulation for the converter.
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Yep. covered them myself. In my former life I used to teach 8th graders how to do upholstery. That was a very long time ago.
You guys told me I needed to vent the converter so I thought that grill work might do just fine. It matches some original grill work in the cabinet over the fridge - same pattern, different size is all.
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02-22-2011, 03:19 PM
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#75
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,989
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Double wow! That looks great Lindy!
Chris
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08-09-2011, 03:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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Very nice work.
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2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
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08-14-2011, 07:03 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Medina
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 332
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Nice! I'm attempting something similar but different. LOVE the grillwork in front - been trying to come up with something - that will fill the bill for me perfectly! Great work!
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2008 25' Safari FB SE Queen converted to King
2014 Ford Expedition EXP Limited 4x4 V-8
McKesh towing mirrors
Centramatic Balancers
Hensley Swift-Arrow Hitch
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08-15-2011, 06:49 AM
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#78
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4 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
Starkville
, Mississippi
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 309
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Thanks!
I got the grill stuff at Outwater Plastics ( outwater.com). It is that pressed board stuff because I couldn't find any metal that matched the original grillwork in another cabinet.
I have since found that Home Depot carries a pretty good selection of the metal grillwork.
Post pictures of yours when you're done!
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08-15-2011, 10:03 AM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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Ace Hardware sells a very close imitation of the gold grill pattern found in late 50s to early 60s Airstreams. The pattern is called Union Jack and is made out of aluminum.
Here's a pic from Brad Norgaard's blog:
http://59tradewind.blogspot.com/2010...ide-light.html
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2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
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WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
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https://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
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