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Old 09-22-2003, 06:46 AM   #15
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Plywood

I used two pieces of thin ply wood. one is mounted to the slide section of the frame and the other is inside of the futon cover.
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Old 09-22-2003, 06:49 AM   #16
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Finished

Spots are in photo not on mattress.
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Old 09-22-2003, 12:34 PM   #17
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Ken - Your futon gaucho looks very nice!!! I have a couple of ???

You said you removed the plastic c shaped stoppers. Was that for good? We have the same on the ends of our metal extension bars and some of them are broken (PO used screws). I thought those "stoppers" not only stopped the bars from extending too far, but also kept them from popping out of the metal "trays" they slide back and forth in. If they are not needed, we would do the same as you (especially as we are looking into the futon idea). Can you do a close up pic of how your extension bars work? (or explain) I see the new fold down pieces to keep bed from breaking, but how does it stay attached to frame?
Next question. Did futon come from franchise store like Mattress King? or local store. Was the cover custom made or did it come with? The color is what I am looking for, because it would need to match with material I purchase to recover the dinette in our trailer. Appriciate your help. Leigh
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Old 09-22-2003, 04:00 PM   #18
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I got one!

I just happened to have a photo of the plastic thingy and The slides did not come out of the track.
They would fully extend but not come out.
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Old 09-22-2003, 04:02 PM   #19
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Old 09-22-2003, 04:07 PM   #20
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Closeup of finished rail and support

You can see the stopper on the end of the rail in this photo.

I bought the futon matress from a mattress store. Not your average futon. this mattress was 200 dollars. We have moved it from unit to unit. I am working on converting a twin in the rear to a full in the rear. Stayed tuned for up coming photos in a different thread.

I love this stuff!!!!!!
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Old 09-22-2003, 04:08 PM   #21
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Mattress cover

I bought the futon cover from Wal Mart

40 bucks!
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Old 09-23-2003, 09:30 AM   #22
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Ken - your pics and info are a great help!! Couple more ??? How thick is the futon? I'm guessing since we haven't been out pricing or looking yet that they come in different thicknesses for range of comfort. Also is it a standard full size same as a bed?]

About the plastic thingys. It sounds like you removed them for remodel, then put them back? right? As i said earlier, several of ours are broken and need replacement. Do you know where to get them? AS dealer here (not the best) did not seem to have a clue. We did not have one to show him, but did our best to explain. Maybe i could use your pic to e-mail to a different dealer? Price (husband) seems to think there are 2 different kinds of plastic things on ours. 1 is a stopper, the other is a guide. you too? Thanks for your efforts. Leigh
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Plastic parts

he is correct that there are two plastic pieces per rail.

The "C" plastic part is removed permanently as part of the retrofit.

The piece that is in the end of the rail does not come off. That piece keeps the slide from extending out of the rail. (rail is bottom piece for this conversation, slide is the top).

The futon mattress is definitely not your average mattess that comes with the 99 dollar futon from Wal mart. The futon is at least 6 to 8 inches thick. It is the same size as a double bed.

As far as resources for parts, probably not much chance, you are not the first one who visited this forum looking for Gaucho parts.

I do not recall what I done with the removed parts or I would send them to you.

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Thanks Ken. ??? answered, now we have some homework to do. Leigh
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Which is best the re-rigged queen instead of twin or redesigned gaucho

Ken, didn't you try both - the queen or full size bed mod instead of rear twins and the gaucho mod. In my Argosy I have been sleeping on the twins - 33"! 4 days a week - Then bough a memory foam full futon for $400. Rigged the gaucho slider with support to try it out - makes a great bed but i don't t hink I can fold this thing without cutting it to two cushions - so now I am thinking of the full memory foam mattress in place of the twins up front. What do you think?
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Ken, didn't you try both - the queen or full size bed mod instead of rear twins and the gaucho mod?
I have done both and did not cut any mattresses.
I converted front gaucho in an Overlander as depicted in this thread and I converted rear twins to full size bed in an Excella.

Look here for the twins to full conversion
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Thumbs up More on twins to full

Thanks Ken, you insipe me. I live in this 28' rear twin Argosy 4 days a week commuting to work in Morgan Hills (250 miles from where I live in Santa Barbara) and have contemplated various options - I bought a 8 inch full Memory foam futon - sleeps great but doesn't fold very well on the gaucho frame - so that's why your twin to full mod is attractive to me. Let me make sure - it sits cross wise head to foot curb to road not lenght-wise like the twins, right? So 76" less 50" give 26" to spare - why leave a space of 15" (and not a curved board like the gaucho has) on the rear wall? because of curves?

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I have done both and did not cut any mattresses.
I converted front gaucho in an Overlander as depicted in this thread and I converted rear twins to full size bed in an Excella.

Look here for the twins to full conversion
http://www.airforums.com/forum...ight=twin+beds

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why leave a space of 15" (and not a curved board like the gaucho has) on the rear wall? because of curves?
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You can use the extra space f you like. I have senn it done that way. I think "theNewkid64" does go all the way to the rear wall in his Argosy MH. I did it to match the factory layout of the Trailers with full size bed.
The bed is side to side (not front to back.)

there is about ten inches to spare at the foot of the bed.

I guess the factory did it this way so you could make the bed without crawling around on it.

The head of the bed does contact the street side of the trailer.
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