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04-14-2007, 07:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 25' Classic
Hydes
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Larry C is right on the money. Good quality cabinets are not cheap, and cheap cabinets are not good. You truly do get what you pay for. As far as using plywood ( cabinet grade hardwood) on the interiors, it's the only way to go.
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04-14-2007, 12:02 PM
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#42
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3 Rivet Member
1974 25' Tradewind
Lake Oswego
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Pearl
Pam, Just found your post. How are the cabinet's coming? We are starting the same process this weekend with the tear out. We've decided on a L shaped kitchen counter which includes the stove and round sink. It gives us a little more counter space, about 1 1/2 square feet, which we know is alot in an airstream. I'm pretty set on birch with walnut accents on the cabinets. We took some before pics for the forum and will be posting progress pictures, I hope. We are going to the area 33 forum rally May 25th so hope we are finished or we are really going to be roughing it. Teresa
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Teresa, The cabinets are coming along. My friend has my trailer in Philomath and I am in the Portland area. So, I am not getting to see the day by day progress. It drives me crazy. Things are coming along. We picked out a pull out pantry to go next to the fridge and I am trying to decide on what to use for the counter top. I will use laminate but can't decide if I want to use a dark contrast to the light maple or a stainless look to match the stainless walls. I want a Mid Century Modern look. I guess that is 1950's, 60's. Have you found a round sink? I have been looking and can't find one that isn't just a small bar sink? I would love to go to the rally in May, but I don't think I will be ready... Pam
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04-14-2007, 12:08 PM
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#43
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3 Rivet Member
1974 25' Tradewind
Lake Oswego
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Craftsman2
Larry C is right on the money. Good quality cabinets are not cheap, and cheap cabinets are not good. You truly do get what you pay for. As far as using plywood ( cabinet grade hardwood) on the interiors, it's the only way to go.
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Craftsman2, Thanks for your comment. Are you saying that plywood is also referred to as cabinet grade hardwood? We are using plywood for the 'boxes' and real maple for the cabinet doors and drawer fronts. I believe the bulkheads are maple ply.... Pam
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04-14-2007, 01:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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I think Jack might have meant that using the "good stuff" on the interiors is the mark of good craftsmanship. I agree - to me it is nice for the inside of the cabinets to look as good as the outside. Who wants to look at a big ole ugly knot inside the cabinet anytime a water glass is needed?
Tom
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04-14-2007, 01:25 PM
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#45
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Rivet Master
1973 31' Sovereign
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,255
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Pam,
If you are interested in something really vintage looking take a look at these laminates:
Retro Laminate : Boomerang, Cracked Ice, Retro Counter Tops
They are more expensive than some you could chose but you don't need all that much for an Airstream and maybe one of them would be just the thing.
Malcolm
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04-14-2007, 01:25 PM
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#46
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3 Rivet Member
1974 25' Tradewind
Lake Oswego
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomW
I think Jack might have meant that using the "good stuff" on the interiors is the mark of good craftsmanship. I agree - to me it is nice for the inside of the cabinets to look as good as the outside. Who wants to look at a big ole ugly knot inside the cabinet anytime a water glass is needed?
Tom
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Tom, Sorry to be dense! But what is the 'good stuff'? Is the plywood good? It looks pretty nice. Thanks, Pam
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04-14-2007, 01:50 PM
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#47
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelake
... But what is the 'good stuff'? Is the plywood good? ...
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Plywood comes in many grades, and the cost is contingent on the grade. Cabinet grade plywood is one of the better, if not best, grades. 'Good stuff' can mean many things. But in this case it means that both sides of the plywood look good.
Many times cabinet makers will make sure the outside of the cabinets look like a million bucks while relegating the rest of the cabinet to 'structurally sound'. In other words, while whatever cabinet you get will perform its function well, some of them will only look good with the doors closed.
The bottom line is that it sounds like you are getting cabinets I would not mind having.
Tom
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04-15-2007, 11:29 PM
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Aluminum in 3-D
1968 28' Ambassador
Seaside
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 580
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Pam, I have a great round sink, It's 14" wide and 8" deep, finally large enough for a frying pan to soak. I found it on e-bay and it was around $50. I'm going to have my cabinetmaker make a formica cover for it for extra counter space. When you get a chance for pic's put them on, I'm still trying to decide on the wood. I see so many great idea's and only 1 airstream (so far) We are doing the Blue Pearl in the Jimmy Buffet "a pirate looks at 40" theme so we are tropical. We want all the warmth we can come up with since we are on the coast. When you start on fabric look up Malinamade.com great retro fabrics in barkcloth.
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04-16-2007, 06:00 PM
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#49
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Pearl
When you start on fabric look up Malinamade.com great retro fabrics in barkcloth.
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I think you mean melinamade.com...right?
Shari
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05-23-2007, 10:57 PM
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#50
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3 Rivet Member
1974 25' Tradewind
Lake Oswego
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
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Update
I am attaching photo's of my progress so far... Cabinets should all be complete next week sometime and I will add more.
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05-23-2007, 11:11 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
West of Fort Worth
, Texas
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Posts: 6,699
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Looks great Pam! Update the photos when you get it all in. (Please)
Dave
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05-24-2007, 06:18 AM
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RivetAddict
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
Louisville
, Kentucky
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,861
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Nice looking work. Love the round sink. Just refaced my existing frames in my 345. More of a CCD look, but I also installed the round sink. Keep posting with pics.
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1986 Airstream 345 Classic Motorhome
AIR 1760
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06-21-2007, 10:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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Okay, Pam. It's now late June and still no pics of
the finished product!!! Come on, we want to see...
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2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE
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07-04-2007, 11:56 AM
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#54
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3 Rivet Member
1974 25' Tradewind
Lake Oswego
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mello mike
the finished product!!! Come on, we want to see...
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Finally, had some time to get some pixs... thanks for the interest!
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07-04-2007, 12:08 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1974 25' Tradewind
Lake Oswego
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
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Now that the cabinets are in, I will be on to the front area. This is how I have it set up for temporary use. It is helpful to use it like this as I plan on a permanent solution (which will be in the future as money allows)... I see the cost of my Airstream in units like I heard a friend use with his sailboat .... each unit is $1000. So, I figure I am about 2 'Airstream Units' from doing my dinette remodel!
I have purchased bamboo for the floor with a heating pad to place underneath. I have had some problems with a leak in my grey water tank, so will not be doing the floor until that is resolved. It actually leaks into the bathroom floor when over filled and drips out the rear belly pan. One might ask why it gets overfilled!? The answer is a new owner... with lots to learn.
Here are the pictures... (granddaugher in her typical pose!)
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07-04-2007, 01:01 PM
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#56
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Wow!! Impressive!
Are you going to redo the twin bed area and bathroom?
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2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE
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My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
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07-04-2007, 01:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 25' Classic
Hydes
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 713
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Looks like a top quality job. Congratulations
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07-04-2007, 03:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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It appears to be all said & done.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelake
I am having sticker shock! Please give me some feedback. ...What do you think?
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Hi Pam,
So what do you think? Was it worth it? Are you happy with the finished product?
Tom
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07-04-2007, 04:29 PM
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#59
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelake
I have purchased bamboo for the floor with a heating pad to place underneath. I have had some problems with a leak in my grey water tank, so will not be doing the floor until that is resolved. It actually leaks into the bathroom floor when over filled and drips out the rear belly pan. One might ask why it gets overfilled!? The answer is a new owner... with lots to learn.
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Nice results! Y'know, grey tanks of this vintage just weren't that large. The usual first overflow is observed coming up the shower drain. Are you observing it elsewhere?
Would a blue tote and a sewer cap like this or this help you extend your gray capacity?
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07-04-2007, 04:30 PM
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#60
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3 Rivet Member
1974 25' Tradewind
Lake Oswego
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
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Tom, I am very happy... the final cost... around $3000 and that includes the tear out, all materials including hardware, pull out pantry ($500!), sink, faucet, and of course all of the labor. I am new to remodeling (anything) so had to learn how much things cost... even the little things like full extension drawer pulls are expensive.... But it is just what I had in mind... and even better in 'real life'!!!
Mello mike, I am not in a hurry to do the bed area... which is a double. I think it looks better with the new maple then I thought it would. I do need a new mattress and will eventually want to redo it ... given enough time and money... Maybe some paint until then. Not sure. Because then it would be on to the bathroom! I can see why people just tear everything out and start fresh. It would have been nice to redo all of the plumbing, but I don't live that kind of life. Meaning I can't do it myself and can't afford to pay, so I will do what I can as I can afford it and have someone I trust to do it. My friend who did the kitchen says 'never again with the curved walls!', but he is forgetful....
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