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Old 10-24-2007, 05:26 AM   #15
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Hi Boatdoc, Looking forward to following your progress. I always learn something from watching these projects.
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Good morning; Last Saturday my wife was gracious enough to relieve me in business management duty, and I was able to put a fourth and finish coat of Gold Spar on my 15 sheets of OKUME Marine ply. During the past week I have done one sheet with a brush and had to stop. My shop turned out to be much too dusty for finish coat. My buddy who owns a paint shop, offered me the use of his paint booth. With my HVLP gun, I was done in three hours and it looks deep and spectacular. It actually looks better in reality than in the pictures. Monday we had them set up in the hot sun to harden the Varnish.

Last Sunday I was able to install a water heater and Furnace. We have also made a final decision on floor covering. We have settled for 1/4" cork underlayment and 12"x 12" Lisbon pattern 1/4" cork tiles which has some green hues in it to match Sea foam green walls. There is enough contrast so it should not blend in too closely with paneling. In case if someone wonders why 15 sheets, because all walls will be covered with 3MM plywood up to the height to the bottom of window. Shower and bathroom walls will be coated with Rhino liner in white, which will be sprayed on. Rhino has a FDA approved coating for potable water tanks, and this should eliminate any possibility of moisture intrusion into the walls. Thanks "Boatdoc"
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:02 AM   #16
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As always, more fine craftsmanship. I like the Rhino Liner idea for the bath walls, I may borrow that idea from you.
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:38 AM   #17
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I love to know that I am not alone in the going overboard. I build custom furniture and cabinets. I have worried about imperfections on the underside of things that are inside of a cabinet. I have always worried about the "what if someone sees that" factor... spending too much time on things that no one will ever notice... no one except me. Maybe we were all Shaker craftsmen in a previous life, worried about a mistake that no one but God could see.
As far as how much is spent... I want to remain as ignorant as possible. I do not want to know, for if I did, I would give it up. I had no idea of the costs associated in this whole endeavor. I am a blue collar working guy. I am not even remotely close to retirement. My oldest daughter is 7 years from college and I have bought the most expensive toy of my life. My restoration is just beginning and I have almost spent 2/3 of the purchase price already. I also realize that this is the best thing I have ever spent money on. The enjoyment of working on Anna, learning to work with materials that are new to me, buying and mastering new tools, making something old new again, well that is priceless. When I received the title from the MVA, I knew that I was committed and there was no turning back. How much it costs me is of little importance now. Heck it is only money, that stuff grows on trees in this land of milk and honey. I have something better than money, I have a vintage Airstream.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:25 PM   #18
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Just keep post'n the results of your labor of Love. We all cannot be as skilled maybe as U but we are inspired to do the best possible job we can. Seeing the pic's u post shows what can be accomplished if we try hard enough.Thanks for sharing every detail of what U use to accomplish such fine work.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:33 AM   #19
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Just keep post'n the results of your labor of Love. We all cannot be as skilled maybe as U but we are inspired to do the best possible job we can. Seeing the pic's u post shows what can be accomplished if we try hard enough.Thanks for sharing every detail of what U use to accomplish such fine work.
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Hi Roger; Half of last weekend turned out to be bummer with heavy rain Saturday, but Sunday I managed to refit the small oval door at the rear street side. I have picked that location for water the heater so it can be closer to tub and bath sink. This relocation presented a problem with exhaust deflector. The heater outside dimensions front to back were perfect, but a new exhaust redirecting assembly had to be made. Some 1/16" aluminum and my trusty tig welder accomplished what needed to be done.
I still need to find a some sort of a heat shield insulation to shield rest of that door. This weekend I will attempt to cut out the opening in the roof for the 15.000 BTU Low Profile Carrier AC and hopefully install it.

My last trip to my favorite scrap yard produced a great find. I have found a barrel full of brand new chrome plated coil springs 3/4"x5"and bought about 60 pieces at $1.50/lbs. Now, my concerns about paying $4.00 a piece are over. My plans are to weld/fabricate my own hinged aluminum bed frames and a wrap around sofa. I have a large spool of 3/32" 7x7 SS wire, which will be used for stringing up "spring suspended" bases for the two beds and the sofa.

Another bummer was that I found out that a dealer who did my Rhino bed liner shut down his application facility. I was ready to have liner sprayed in white in the entire bathroom area. This particular product is FDA approved for potable water tanks. Bummer is that now I will have to look for another dealer.

I am still wrecking my brain what to use for a 12 Volt bathroom fan with mechanica louver. Do not want to install anything that is big and ugly. Any suggestions from the Forums members would be much appreciated. Next time I will post some pics of the water heater exhaust modification. Thanks "Boatdoc"
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:11 AM   #20
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We had those rains here also . We really needed the rain bad ,we were in drought conditions all summer. We did get over 4" of rain out of that strom and pretty much caught us up for the year.
I guess if Im gonna keep this big alumimun thing Im gonna have to invest in a tig welder. I could use it now I have a screen door frame cracked at a hinge,that needs dealt with ASAP. Did your wife paint that aweful green stuff on the inside of the outer skin yet.Is that the stuff they use in aircraft to stop oxidation?Just keep postin BoatDoc we all are intrested in the restoration and your methods. It shows us what we can do. I always have said, U can do anything,become anything, if U want too bad enough and work toward that goal.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:59 AM   #21
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Furnace type and mount

Having removed the NT-22 Suburban to replace what sounded like a bad bearing in the motor, I realized that the NT-22's outside profile is not square. It is about an inch and a half shorter on the bottom than the top. Because the motor is in short supply, I was considering installing a modern alternative. What model furnace did you install and does it have an angled mating surface to the outside wall? The NT-22 is a bit oversized for the 24' camper. How many btu output does the furnace have.
FYI - after talking to a sailing buddy from MIchigan, he told me that certain predatory insects like the smell of propane. It smells like rotting stuff. That is why spiders make their nests in pilot gas supply orifices and why my furnace was full of wasp nests. He recommends putting a piece of tape over the outlet/inlet for the furnace when it isn't in use.
btw.... Wow! your work is truly impressive. I intend to paint the camper at some point and was going to go the automotive spray route but your rolled option is really appealing. I'll refer to your excellent shop procedures for the method. Thanks for taking the time to keep us informed.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:06 AM   #22
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eight track player removed...

When I got this 70' model AS, it had what appears to be the original eight track player and radio installed...now, we all know what eight track tapes can do...play alittle, then garble-garble, play alittle, then click-click. Well I thought about it (whether or not to remove it for an upgrade area) and finally took it out, it was wired in real tight at the back...it had at least nine wires running into it and had to pull the darn thing out like an embilical cord and cut it loose and taped the wires shut...I know some of those wires go to the four speakers installed also in the unit. Now mind you this is the console area above the couch. I don't want to rip out wires. But I do want to try to get power up to that area without going outside the console space...and then install a nice DVD unit/CD player...it's either this, or a Midland base unit (CB)...I am not real into Cb's either, but they are great for emergencies. Then situate the entertainment center else where....What did you folks do?
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:09 AM   #23
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Having removed the NT-22 Suburban to replace what sounded like a bad bearing in the motor, I realized that the NT-22's outside profile is not square. It is about an inch and a half shorter on the bottom than the top. Because the motor is in short supply, I was considering installing a modern alternative. What model furnace did you install and does it have an angled mating surface to the outside wall? The NT-22 is a bit oversized for the 24' camper. How many btu output does the furnace have.
FYI - after talking to a sailing buddy from MIchigan, he told me that certain predatory insects like the smell of propane. It smells like rotting stuff. That is why spiders make their nests in pilot gas supply orifices and why my furnace was full of wasp nests. He recommends putting a piece of tape over the outlet/inlet for the furnace when it isn't in use.
btw.... Wow! your work is truly impressive. I intend to paint the camper at some point and was going to go the automotive spray route but your rolled option is really appealing. I'll refer to your excellent shop procedures for the method. Thanks for taking the time to keep us informed.
Mike,

Use a fine mesh screen (preferrably stainless) to stop the mud daubers (wasps). I get those calls down here all the time and after the cleaning, I install the screening to stop any further infestations.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:20 AM   #24
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Use a fine mesh screen (preferrably stainless) to stop the mud daubers (wasps). I get those calls down here all the time and after the cleaning, I install the screening to stop any further infestations.
DUH - why didn't I think of that? That's why they pay you the big bucks!

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Old 10-29-2007, 09:39 AM   #25
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Boatdoc and others in this thread:
My wife and I bought our 1978 31' Sovereign knowing it needed some floor work. What we didn't know was that we would end up gutting the trailer, installing new floor, painting the bathroom and -re-installing the interior.

I have been working on the trailer since April and am almost done. We took it to the Branson Rally to get some kinks out, (like a leak by the 12 volt pump hose clamp).

I am very proud of the work we have done on this trailer. We were not able to use the trailer all summer because I worked too slow. But next year, watch out!

Would we have been better off buying one already done? Probably. But we got a very nice trailer that I can proudly say, "I did it".
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:47 PM   #26
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Having removed the NT-22 Suburban to replace what sounded like a bad bearing in the motor, I realized that the NT-22's outside profile is not square. It is about an inch and a half shorter on the bottom than the top. Because the motor is in short supply, I was considering installing a modern alternative. What model furnace did you install and does it have an angled mating surface to the outside wall? The NT-22 is a bit oversized for the 24' camper. How many btu output does the furnace have.
FYI - after talking to a sailing buddy from MIchigan, he told me that certain predatory insects like the smell of propane. It smells like rotting stuff. That is why spiders make their nests in pilot gas supply orifices and why my furnace was full of wasp nests. He recommends putting a piece of tape over the outlet/inlet for the furnace when it isn't in use.
btw.... Wow! your work is truly impressive. I intend to paint the camper at some point and was going to go the automotive spray route but your rolled option is really appealing. I'll refer to your excellent shop procedures for the method. Thanks for taking the time to keep us informed.
Hi Donna and Mike;
I have installed Suburban MT 30 which is 30.000 BTU. The angle you are talking about on the furnace is obsolete. All Suburbans are square in external walls, however the air intake and exhaust slide into each other. This will provide you with at least two to three inches of adjustment to accommodate wall offset with external outer panel which comes with furnace. All of my trailer will be Gnat proof with very fine SS screens and rubber flange seals on all through floor openings including vents. Thanks "Boatdoc"
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:06 PM   #27
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Boatdoc and others in this thread:
My wife and I bought our 1978 31' Sovereign knowing it needed some floor work. What we didn't know was that we would end up gutting the trailer, installing new floor, painting the bathroom and -re-installing the interior.

I have been working on the trailer since April and am almost done. We took it to the Branson Rally to get some kinks out, (like a leak by the 12 volt pump hose clamp).

I am very proud of the work we have done on this trailer. We were not able to use the trailer all summer because I worked too slow. But next year, watch out!

Would we have been better off buying one already done? Probably. But we got a very nice trailer that I can proudly say, "I did it".
Hi Jim Lee; I totally agree with you on buying one already done. The issue here is my need for perfection. While there are people who could possibly do a better job than I can, but for me, I can do it by far the best.
It is not that I was not aware that it is going to cost me more than a new one if I include my hours of labor at $98.00 per hour, which is my going rate at the business. The new one would not be the way I wanted, and I would not be as familiar with it. This way there is no unknown screw or rivet that I do not know about. Being a perfectionist is a very costly disease and unfortunately I have it, thanks to my Dad. On the other side there is no greater reward than looking at your own creation and fight a grin on your face, so that others do not think you are exalting yourself. Thanks "Boatdoc"
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:17 PM   #28
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