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Old 04-02-2011, 10:39 PM   #1
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2009 Loose Cabinet Screws

Hello All,

So I dont know what engineer at airstream decided that particle board cabinets, wood screws and road vibrations = long lasting durability and quality. But I digress. I now find myself with screws on the kitchen table leg, cabinet drawers and hinges no longer able to hold tight. Can anyone recommend a good wood glue or epoxy that may give the screws something to hold onto? The particle board has broken up and no longer holds the screws tight. I looking for something to put into the screw holes that might secure the screw better and give a long lasting hold.

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Old 04-02-2011, 10:56 PM   #2
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Tmarquis,
Here are a few things from 3M. It is not cheap. Even the two part epoxy that is sold at auto parts stores will work very well.
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An old quick trick is to put a toothpick in the hole, break it off flush with the surface and screw in the screw again (you may need more than one toothpick). This may not be a long term fix and there are no doubt products that will no doubt give you a more permanent fix, but this is what we do when we need to tighten a screw's hold on the fly.
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I'm thinking a combo of both the toothpick and the glue.
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Make paper pulp - wet newspaper with Elmers Glue and a drop or two of water - jam it in the hole and put the screw in while still wet.

I tightened up a couple that way over three years ago. Still tight.

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The above advice is great and in my (construction background) experience rebonding the wood and giving it some reinforcement is generally the best solution for a loose wood screw.

Step 1 get Tightbond Wood Glue (consider tightbond 3, its waterproof) and some toothpicks and blue painters tape.
Step 2 put blue painters tape over the hole and carefully cut out the hole with an x-acto or razor.
Step 3 break pieces of toothpick to length, cover in wood glue and fill the hole with the toothpick pieces and wood glue.
Step 4 wait and enjoy how the wood glue and toothpicks will bond to the wood and be even stronger than they were originally. (Dont forget to redrill a pilot hole when reinstalling!!!)

I am fairly sure I will be replacing some parts of the cabinetry (with like-original finish/look) to avoid poor-material choice and sloppy installation (and improve overall longevity).
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I see you have a 2009 Airstream. That's a very new trailer to have the cabinet come apart. If this is happening to many of them, it could be the sign of a problem beyond a quality control issue.

You may want to have your running gear inspected. Bent wheels and related issues can do extensive damage to the contents of you trailer.
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I see you have a 2009 Airstream. That's a very new trailer to have the cabinet come apart. If this is happening to many of them, it could be the sign of a problem beyond a quality control issue.

You may want to have your running gear inspected. Bent wheels and related issues can do extensive damage to the contents of you trailer.
Very good point. Our 08' purchased Aug '07 has been down a lot of gravel roads without problems.
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Thanks! Great suggestions. I now have a Sunday project. The loose screw issues are only in a few but crucial places. (Cabinet latch, Table Leg mount and a couple hinges. The trailer pulls very smoothy so I dont think it's anything more than normal wear and tear.
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I second the use of a high quality wood glue and filling the enlarged holes with wood. But I do not use toothpicks too soft. Instead I use scrap pieces of hickory or oak flooring and make slivers to partially fill the holes. I cut the slivers to the depth of the hole and coat with glue the side that is in contact with the cabinet. I insert two or three slivers depending how much the hole is enlarged. I then insert a screw and tighten enough to force the hardwood slivers against the side of the hole and allow the glue to dry before reassembling. I have never had one come loose a second time.
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The washboard road to the Madison Arm campground and RV Resort took the doors off all of the cabinets, the closet and the oven; and the refrigerator door popped open and dumped all of it's contents on the floor. After this, even with larger wood screws, the closet door and one of the cabinet doors fell off again (on another trip).

I finally got fed up and drilled holes completely through the doors and replaced the wood screws with bolts, nuts, big flat washers and Loctite. I really didn't care what it looked like as long as the doors didn't fall off again.

Actually, the metal hardware on the outside of the cabinet and closet doors looks looks fine to me in our Airstream. They don't hide hardware in a boat; they just use chrome or stainless steel. I wonder why Airstream didn't do this in the first place.
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As a cabinetmaker, the solution I use frequently is to drill out the hole, usually 1/4" and insert and glue a wooden dowel. Then, predrill, and screw into the dowel. Outside of confirmat screws, this is the best method for putting high stress screws into particleboard.
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As a cabinetmaker, the solution I use frequently is to drill out the hole, usually 1/4" and insert and glue a wooden dowel. Then, predrill, and screw into the dowel. Outside of confirmat screws, this is the best method for putting high stress screws into particleboard.
And I suggest Gorilla Glue.
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Standard gorilla glue expands so make sure you plan for it.
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