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08-24-2012, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CDONA
Two points that I researched from dealers the Yamaha has a iron sleeve in aluminum barrel where the Honda is all aluminum and the fuel shut off. Didn't know about the cam drive belt on the Honda.
Yamaha wins for me
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Only the Honda EU1000i has a aluminum cylinder. All other Honda generators, including the EU2000i models, are aluminum blocks with a cast-iron sleeve. That's why the EU1000i has a 2-year warranty, but all other Honda models have a 3-year warranty.
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09-20-2012, 10:36 AM
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3 Rivet Member
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Yamaha 2400isHC
I own a Honda EU3000is that I'm going to sell. I just bought a Yamaha 2400isHC. This is what I know. The Honda is a nice generator and runs really quietly and easily runs my 13.5 Btu AC unit. I just bought a new GMC Sierra 2500HD and wanted a tonneau cover that is light and easily removable. I got an Undercover SE. The Honda won't fit! It is 21 7/8 inches tall and the cover is just below the bed rails. The Honda sits just below the rails and works with a fiberglass, slightly raised cover. The Honda won't fit in a Ford F250 below the rails. The Yamaha fits easily. The Honda weighs 135 lbs. and I can't lift it in and out. The Yamaha weighs 75 lbs. and I can move it. What Yamaha did with the 2400 HC model, was to add capacitors to allow 4,000 watts for 10 seconds to start an AC unit. The 2400 rated capacity is fine to keep it running. There are two 2400's. The HC model cannot be paralleled but the base unit can. Yamaha has figured out how to make a light weight generator that will start and run a 13.5 AC unit. Honda doesn't do this. So, with Honda, you have a choice of a heavy 3000 watt unit or two 2000 watt units. Going with two 2000 requires double the maintenance of a single generator. Both are quiet, though the 3000 is the quietest of them all at idle. The 3000 has electric start and the Yamaha does not. But, that requires battery maintenance. A Yamaha 2800 is NOT a quiet generator and isn't in this quiet generator category. Yamaha and Honda are absolutely equal in quality. The new Yamaha 2400isHC could be the answer for allot of Airstreamer's.
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09-20-2012, 10:51 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
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Originally Posted by rp709
So, with Honda, you have a choice of a heavy 3000 watt unit or two 2000 watt units. Going with two 2000 requires double the maintenance of a single generator. .
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You forgot the Honda EU3000i Handi. Its 75# and will power an air con.
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09-20-2012, 11:12 AM
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Member Slide Out Society
2004 28' Safari S/O
Zavalla
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rp709
I own a Honda EU3000is that I'm going to sell. I just bought a Yamaha 2400isHC. This is what I know. The Honda is a nice generator and runs really quietly and easily runs my 13.5 Btu AC unit. I just bought a new GMC Sierra 2500HD and wanted a tonneau cover that is light and easily removable. I got an Undercover SE. The Honda won't fit! It is 21 7/8 inches tall and the cover is just below the bed rails. The Honda sits just below the rails and works with a fiberglass, slightly raised cover. The Honda won't fit in a Ford F250 below the rails. The Yamaha fits easily. The Honda weighs 135 lbs. and I can't lift it in and out. The Yamaha weighs 75 lbs. and I can move it. What Yamaha did with the 2400 HC model, was to add capacitors to allow 4,000 watts for 10 seconds to start an AC unit. The 2400 rated capacity is fine to keep it running. There are two 2400's. The HC model cannot be paralleled but the base unit can. Yamaha has figured out how to make a light weight generator that will start and run a 13.5 AC unit. Honda doesn't do this. So, with Honda, you have a choice of a heavy 3000 watt unit or two 2000 watt units. Going with two 2000 requires double the maintenance of a single generator. Both are quiet, though the 3000 is the quietest of them all at idle. The 3000 has electric start and the Yamaha does not. But, that requires battery maintenance. A Yamaha 2800 is NOT a quiet generator and isn't in this quiet generator category. Yamaha and Honda are absolutely equal in quality. The new Yamaha 2400isHC could be the answer for allot of Airstreamer's.
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So how much for the Honda 3000ie?
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09-20-2012, 11:20 AM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r carl
You forgot the Honda EU3000i Handi. Its 75# and will power an air con.
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But it is not nearly as quite as the standard 3000 watt Honda.
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09-20-2012, 11:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockwell
So how much for the Honda 3000ie?
Rockwell
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Hi, last time I checked the Honda Handi was about $900.00 more than the Yamaha 2400.
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09-20-2012, 11:33 AM
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Member Slide Out Society
2004 28' Safari S/O
Zavalla
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His post said he was going to sell the Honda. I wanted to know how much he was asking for it. Not comparing prices
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09-20-2012, 11:52 AM
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2005 25' Safari
Salem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockwell
His post said he was going to sell the Honda. I wanted to know how much he was asking for it. Not comparing prices
Rockwell
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Hi, sorry, I misunderstood what you said.
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09-20-2012, 01:57 PM
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Santa Fe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rp709
I own a Honda EU3000is that I'm going to sell. I just bought a Yamaha 2400isHC. This is what I know. The Honda is a nice generator and runs really quietly and easily runs my 13.5 Btu AC unit. I just bought a new GMC Sierra 2500HD and wanted a tonneau cover that is light and easily removable. I got an Undercover SE. The Honda won't fit! It is 21 7/8 inches tall and the cover is just below the bed rails. The Honda sits just below the rails and works with a fiberglass, slightly raised cover. The Honda won't fit in a Ford F250 below the rails. The Yamaha fits easily. The Honda weighs 135 lbs. and I can't lift it in and out. The Yamaha weighs 75 lbs. and I can move it. What Yamaha did with the 2400 HC model, was to add capacitors to allow 4,000 watts for 10 seconds to start an AC unit. The 2400 rated capacity is fine to keep it running. There are two 2400's. The HC model cannot be paralleled but the base unit can. Yamaha has figured out how to make a light weight generator that will start and run a 13.5 AC unit. Honda doesn't do this. So, with Honda, you have a choice of a heavy 3000 watt unit or two 2000 watt units. Going with two 2000 requires double the maintenance of a single generator. Both are quiet, though the 3000 is the quietest of them all at idle. The 3000 has electric start and the Yamaha does not. But, that requires battery maintenance. A Yamaha 2800 is NOT a quiet generator and isn't in this quiet generator category. Yamaha and Honda are absolutely equal in quality. The new Yamaha 2400isHC could be the answer for allot of Airstreamer's.
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Just went to the Yamaha Generator site where they stated this:
NOTE: The EF2400iSHC will NOT run most RV a/c units and does NOT have a 30 amp electrical receptacle.
So....?
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09-20-2012, 05:54 PM
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Vintage Kin Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba
But it is not nearly as quite as the standard 3000 watt Honda.
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Nothing is as far as I know.....
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09-20-2012, 05:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo
Just went to the Yamaha Generator site where they stated this:
NOTE: The EF2400iSHC will NOT run most RV a/c units and does NOT have a 30 amp electrical receptacle.
So....?
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You need a bigger gen than 2400w. You dont want to kill it.
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09-20-2012, 06:59 PM
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Bowie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo
Just went to the Yamaha Generator site where they stated this:
NOTE: The EF2400iSHC will NOT run most RV a/c units and does NOT have a 30 amp electrical receptacle.
So....?
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Yamaha has a multiple-personality thing going on. If you check one part of their website, it says it works (the marketing part); but the tech specs part says it doesn't. Some have had it work just fine. I have no horse in this race; I have dual Honda 2000s.
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09-20-2012, 07:35 PM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
St. Hedwig
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I have a Yamaha 2400is but I won't the 2400isHC since it will start my 13,500 AC. My 2400is is set up for propane and I wouldn't use any other fuel source. I like the Honda 3000 but it is too tall and heavy for me. The Yamaha is a great generator and the 2400is will run everything in my trailer except the A/C without turning anything off. And, it is quiet. I am already in the "looking" process.
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09-20-2012, 09:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Safari
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo
Just went to the Yamaha Generator site where they stated this:
NOTE: The EF2400iSHC will NOT run most RV a/c units and does NOT have a 30 amp electrical receptacle.
So....?
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the NOTE quoted above appears to be from this webpage -> EF2400iSHC | Yamaha Generators | yamahagenerators.com
that is not a webpage of "Yamaha Motor Corporation, U.S.A.".
it is instead a Yamaha dealer, and not the manufacturer.
based solely on the real life experience of many of us, the quoted NOTE is at best somewhat inaccurate....
ymmv,
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09-20-2012, 09:31 PM
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Salem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo
Just went to the Yamaha Generator site where they stated this:
NOTE: The EF2400iSHC will NOT run most RV a/c units and does NOT have a 30 amp electrical receptacle.
So....?
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Hi, My Yamaha 2400iS runs my 11,000 BTU air conditioner, converter, and refrigerator at high altitude. I also have the orange 30 Amp adapter for a more possitive and secure connection. [works for me]
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09-21-2012, 06:42 AM
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2 Rivet Member
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Alpharetta
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(oops) . Deleted previously posted stuff...sorry.
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09-21-2012, 10:32 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' Classic
Austin
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My Yamaha 2400is starts and runs my 15K A/C in my 2005 Classic with no problem. I use an adapter to go from the regular 20 amp plut to the 30 amp AS power cable.
Dennis
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09-22-2012, 08:02 AM
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ROBERTSUNRUS, where did you get the orange adapter plug?
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09-22-2012, 08:02 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 30' Flying Cloud
Ventura
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I'll be selling my Honda EU300is on Ebay this week. No shipping. I live in Ventura, CA for pickup
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09-22-2012, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, My Yamaha 2400iS runs my 11,000 BTU air conditioner, converter, and refrigerator at high altitude. I also have the orange 30 Amp adapter for a more possitive and secure connection. [works for me]
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Where did you get your 30 Amp outlet adapter? I need one of those.
Brian
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