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Old 11-09-2011, 11:08 AM   #1
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What size generator?

Hello all,

I am getting ready to take a 34 Pan America to NYC for six weeks and am wondering what size generator I will need in order to power the trailer and run 3 small ceramic heaters as well as three barn lights that go in a 25ft military tent that attaches to the end of the trailer. I have been looking at a 5000 watt Honda. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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Old 11-09-2011, 11:13 AM   #2
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HOw many watts are the heaters each? how many watts are the barn lights each? Will you be powering the AS by gennie as well?
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:24 AM   #3
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Those heaters are normally 1500 watts, so that's 4500 not considering the other drains. I would say 5000 would be cutting it too close.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:20 PM   #4
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Electric heat will be expensive - about 10 to 15% of the generator fuel will actually wind up as heat in your conditioned area.

If you must go electric heat I'd skip the ceramic heaters, they are hot spots that heat the ceiling from large temperature differences and the heat rising - look at Vornado brand heaters, they are a strong fan that adds a little heat to a lot of air; real cold draft killers!

I just kept a 10x20 tarp shelter at or above 60F with one heater even with overnight lows in the upper 20's to make sure the floor paints cured as I finish my shell-off rehab (and that was with a 200'-plus wire run).

The ones I have were end-of-season clearance but we just saw them at Costco for $38 each. The heat comes out at a safe temperature too in case someone lays their jacket too close to it too, etc..
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:28 PM   #5
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Yes, the electric heaters are not very efficient, and after thinking about it, I believe I would plan to use the Airstream's propane furnace, and in doing so, you could easily get by with one of the 2KW generators. You would, however use quite a bit of propane.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:25 PM   #6
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The heaters are 1500 watts each so I would definitely be cutting it too close I think. I might have to switch to a 5000watt and a 3000. We want people to be real warm. The propane heater is not an option bc we have gutted the Airstream and built a log cabin inside.

Thanks all of you for your quick responses.
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Your 5000 or Honda EU 6500 ISA is plenty power to keep you warm. Try the small WORKFORCE heaters from home depot at ($25) or so. The most important consideration is the site location with regards to generator noise (decibel) tolerance. Check to make sure that you will be allowed to use a regular noisy generator especially at night. The honda EU series (3500 0r 6500) are quiet and NYC residents might overlook the 56 decibel noise from any of these units. I have two of the workforce heaters in my 31' 2006 classic but only use one combined with the AS propane furnace in extreem cold weather. If you are coming to NYC in the next two months (Nov - Dec), let me know and I can help you with refill of your propane tanks as needed 'cause you definetly need it. Enjoy your trip.
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Just read your last post so disregard my propane furnace ranting ....................
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Can you post pictures of your fancy log cabin Airstream??
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:09 PM   #10
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You can get portable propane heaters for heating your exterior tent.

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You can get portable propane heaters for heating your exterior tent.

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18000 btu/h "Big Buddy" propane heater that looks like it burns a bit less than 1 lb of propane per hour on the high setting is $149 each at Wal-Mart.

You could buy a lot of those for the price of a Honda 5kw generator.
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18000 btu/h "Big Buddy" propane heater that looks like it burns a bit less than 1 lb of propane per hour on the high setting is $149 each at Wal-Mart.

You could buy a lot of those for the price of a Honda 5kw generator.
Too dangerous inside an AS. Use the built in propane furnace.
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Too dangerous inside an AS. Use the built in propane furnace.
He doesn't have the furnace installed anymore, and needs to heat a big tent space. In NYC in winter.
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18000 btu/h "Big Buddy" propane heater that looks like it burns a bit less than 1 lb of propane per hour on the high setting is $149 each at Wal-Mart.
I suspect debate about the safety of the Big Buddy can go on and on, but let me ask 2 questions:
1. Has anyone who has used one of these an opinion on using them in a AS?
2. Has anyone any direct experience to base the opionion they are unsafe?

The key word in the product description seems to me to be "ventilation". Is the Big Buddy a catalytic heater of does it have a flame?
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