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04-18-2016, 01:19 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 23' International
Redondo Beach
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 31
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Upgrading to 6V T-105's
I am upgrading the batteries on my '09 23D' International. I know that my batt box has to be modified to accommodate the taller T-105's. Are there any other upgrades I should expect? I am going to add solar down the line, just it right now.
Thanks for the hell and advice!
John
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04-18-2016, 01:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 16' International CCD
Vintage Kin Owner
Somewhere
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,549
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We upgraded our 2008 23' L-lounge to 6V batteries and appreciate the extra capacity. We upgraded the converter at the same time (and installed 200w of solar). With expensive new batteries going in this might be a good time to upgrade your converter and/or inverter for the longer term.
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04-18-2016, 01:52 PM
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
, USA Living.Somewhere.Yonder
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,359
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Thinking about doing the same thing. Do any of the wires need to be extended/altered?
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04-18-2016, 02:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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I upgraded my converter and added two inches to the top of the box. Photo shows the extension and plug for portable solar .
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04-18-2016, 02:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Sneedville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,753
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I had to pull in some extra slack for my inverter cables, but the battery cables were fine.
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04-18-2016, 02:13 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 25' Safari
Crestview
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 162
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6 volt conversion
I did the conversion last year its been great put in the PD 4655 3 stage converter/charger at the same time. The wires are pretty simple pos. camper wire to batt 1 pos post, neg of battery 1 to pos post of battery 2 and neg camper wire to neg post of battery 2. The tongue jack wire to pos post battery 1. You will have one less jumper wire between the two batteries than 12volt setup. Good camping.
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04-18-2016, 02:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Portable solar details?
Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
I upgraded my converter and added two inches to the top of the box. Photo shows the extension and plug for portable solar .
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Was think of doing something similar (portable panels that can be easily disconnected). What equipment did you use?
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04-19-2016, 06:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BambiTex
Was think of doing something similar (portable panels that can be easily disconnected). What equipment did you use?
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Renogy 100 watt suitcase. Bought directly thru Renogy. They give a substantial military discount and free shipping. Recently used it for several days dry camping in Key West. With frugal battery use on Sunny days it worked very well, easily getting my batteries back up to 100%. Cloudy no sun days not so good of course. I have a higher rated 30amp controller and an additional 85watt panel that I am going to add to the system. My next major purchase is going to be a small generator for those all too common overcast days.
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04-19-2016, 07:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Is the disconnectible plug part of the package?
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04-19-2016, 07:56 AM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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Upgrade your battery cables while you are at it to a thicker gauge.
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04-19-2016, 10:31 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 23' International
Redondo Beach
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 31
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Thanks for the advice!
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04-19-2016, 11:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BambiTex
Is the disconnectible plug part of the package?
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Nope, it is a SAE water proof two wire plug used commonly on boats. I bought the base thru Amazon packaged by Zamp. I have a bag full of the other connectors left over from my boating days. I use them for all removable DC connections.
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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04-19-2016, 12:05 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB International
Clearwater
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 109
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For my Renology suitcase solar set up I bought "Anderson" 50amp connectors and 10 gauge landscaping wire from Amazon. Soldered all connections. These connectors are male-female and as long as you are careful about positive negative on assembly the connections are idiot proof.
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04-21-2016, 08:45 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2010 19' International
Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 5
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AWCHIEF, that extension on your battery box looks sweet. Can you provide details on construction materials and methods? I am planning on modifying my box to accommodate the T-105s as well.
Thanks.
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04-22-2016, 07:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Used 2 inch aluminum C-channel. Cut to almost fit (not much of a metal worker) and attached with self tapping screws to box. If I did it again I would use light weight steel C-channel or farm the job out to a shop and have the frame aluminum cut, welded and attached properly. I can weld light steel but not aluminum. That is an art form and is worth paying someone to do it right.
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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04-22-2016, 09:25 AM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Lewster (Lew) recommended this to me awhile ago, and I believe he does this on his upgrades.
Consider installing a 50 amp circuit breaker between your batteries and the Airstream. I installed a 50 amp surface mount Blue Sea Systems 285-Series Circuit Breaker this should protect the Airstream's 12v systems from any power spikes.
Hopefully, my diagram will not confuse you. Ignore most of it. You can see where mine is, coming off my batteries main power and before it connects to the Airstream's main bus.
And here is a photo of it before it goes to the Airstream distribution bus.
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04-23-2016, 06:28 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari S/O
Ocean Springs
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 17
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6 volt added
I constructed a new "raised top" for my battery box to add 3 1/2 inches so the T-105 6 volt batteries would fit inside. I used an old stop sign or two and alot of rivets for the project.
I use the outdoor electric outlet mounted to the frame as an input for my Go Power 80 Watt solar cell (or as a direct input to charge with my Honda 1000). I use standard 3 prong connectors on my solar and generator cables as inputs.
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04-23-2016, 07:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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George, nice looking box. I like having the extra room above the batteries.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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05-02-2016, 02:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 22' International CCD
Cambria
, California
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 38
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Better Trojan T105s
I've used Trojan 6v deep cycle flooded batteries for years. I just had to replace my batteries and found that Trojan has "Smart Carbon" technology in their new "RE" line of batteries.
Deep-cycle batteries used in off-grid and unstable grid applications are heavily cycled at partial state of charge (PSOC). Operating at PSOC on a regular basis
can quickly diminish the overall life of a battery, which results in frequent and costly battery replacements.
To address the impact of PSOC on deep-cycle batteries in renewable energy (RE), inverter backup and telecom applications, Trojan Battery has now included "Smart Carbon™ as a standard feature in its Industrial and Premium flooded battery lines.
The RE line has double that warranty and are designed to last 10 years. They cost about 10% more but will more than pay that back with longer life.
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05-02-2016, 02:51 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 22' International CCD
Cambria
, California
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 38
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One note on the new T105 RE batteries. The terminal at the top is larger than your standard car type so some of your modified battery boxes could encounter a problem. Mine just barely fit.
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