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Old 11-12-2006, 09:23 PM   #1
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This can't be normal?...

So I was out doing my "pre-flight" today preparing for a trip in the morning and I went to check the tire pressure levels. I handled the left side first with out issues than I sat down curb side, my butt on the grass when I went to remove the vavle cap I felt as though I was getting an electrical current thru me but didn't take much notice to it. Than I put my tire pressure gauge on the valve and it and my hand touched the center metal cap on the alloy wheel and I definetley got zapped with an electrical current thru me!
So now I'm experimenting by physically touching the center cap and no doubt as I'm grounding my body to the grass there is current going thru me. If I stand up on the concrete and try it again, nothing....
This can't be normal is it?
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Old 11-12-2006, 09:28 PM   #2
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was the trailer plugged into shore power?

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Yes it was.
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the cord you used (assuming you don't have a 30 amp rv outlet infront of your house!) reversed the polarity of the electrical system in the trailer.

-or- the outlet you plugged it into is wired wrong!

-or- you have a defective adaptor on the end of your shore power cord.

there is probably nothing wrong with your trailer. however, you need to fix/throw away the cord. or fix the outlet.

it is not normal and needs to be corrected.

inexpensive outlet testers sold at most hardware stores will aid in troubleshooting this.

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I think there was another thread like this...

was it "a shocking experience?" It was an owner with a MH. Turned out the outlet was wired incorrectly.
If not already, I'd unplug the trailer. If you have a generator, you can check for a polarity between the trailer and ground plugged into the generator and see if the same condition exists. DON'T USE YOURSELF AS THE TESTER!

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Interesting!
I have the main AC cord that came with the trailer plugged into an extension cord (with an adapter) plugged into an outlet on the front porch.
I haven't damaged anything on the trailer have I?

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was it "a shocking experience?"
Yes it was!
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So I was out doing my "pre-flight" today preparing for a trip in the morning and I went to check the tire pressure levels. I handled the left side first with out issues than I sat down curb side, my butt on the grass when I went to remove the vavle cap I felt as though I was getting an electrical current thru me but didn't take much notice to it. Than I put my tire pressure gauge on the valve and it and my hand touched the center metal cap on the alloy wheel and I definetley got zapped with an electrical current thru me!
So now I'm experimenting by physically touching the center cap and no doubt as I'm grounding my body to the grass there is current going thru me. If I stand up on the concrete and try it again, nothing....
This can't be normal is it?
First piece of advice, stop experimenting or you may end up dead.

Start with a Polarity checker. It will tell if you have an open ground, or reverse polarity. Is your front jack insulated from the ground, are your stabilizer jacks down? Was the grass damp? Could even come from the 12 volt side.

Because you are using an adapter I suspect that you are pluged into an ungrounded outlet. How many holes on the outlet you are plugged into two or three ? I suspect the supply as you have a new trailer. I also suspect you trailer was hooked to the TV still plugged into shore power. How old is your home ?

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Old 11-12-2006, 10:16 PM   #9
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First piece of advice, stop experimenting or you may end up dead.

Start with a Polarity checker. It will tell if you have an open ground, or reverse polarity. Is your front jack insulated from the ground, are your stabilizer jacks down? Was the grass damp? Could even come form the 12 volt side.

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Well I just figured it out. It's the outlet on the porch! That's what my wife gets for using a handy man!
I plugged the extension into another outlet in the garage and problem solved.
So mean while my wife is freaked out that there is going to be a fire or something while I'm gone but considering that outlet has been there for a year.... It isn't going to cause a problem in the house is it?
More importantly it hasn't damaged my AS's electrical system has it?
Now she get's to have an electrician out to correct it.
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Well I just figured it out. It's the outlet on the porch! That's what my wife gets for using a handy man!
I plugged the extension into another outlet in the garage and problem solved.
So mean while my wife is freaked out that there is going to be a fire or something while I'm gone but considering that outlet has been there for a year.... It isn't going to cause a problem in the house is it?
More importantly it hasn't damaged my AS's electrical system has it?
Now she get's to have an electrician out to correct it.
No fire. put tape over it and don't use it. He reversed the hot and netural. If everything is working your trailer should be ok.

Was the trailer hooked to the truck and all jacks up ?
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First piece of advice, stop experimenting or you may end up dead.

Start with a Polarity checker. It will tell if you have an open ground, or reverse polarity. Is your front jack insulated from the ground, are your stabilizer jacks down? Was the grass damp? Could even come from the 12 volt side.

Because you are using an adapter I suspect that you are pluged into an ungrounded outlet. How many holes on the outlet you are plugged into two or three ? I suspect the supply as you have a new trailer. I also suspect you trailer was hooked to the TV still plugged into shore power. How old is your home ?

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Sorry I didn't answer your questions.
Yes my front jack was insulated from the ground with a block of wood and the stabler jacks weren't down but now I'm hitched to my TV w/the cable plugged into my truck and I'm still on shore power.
The adapter does have a ground pin and the extension cord does as well plugged into a 3 pronged outlet that was added to the house.

Thanks for the help!

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Sorry I didn't answer your questions.
Yes my front jack was insulated from the ground with a block of wood and the stabler jacks weren't down but now I'm hitched to my TV w/the cable plugged into my truck and I'm still on shore power.
The adapter does have a ground pin and the extension cord does as well plugged into a 3 pronged outlet that was added to the house.

Thanks for the help!

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You became the ground path. Had you had the jacks down I doubt that you would of felt anything. Keep a polarity checker and keep it in the trailer, check an outlet in the trailer when you hook up at a campground this will keep you and your family safe.

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Funny thing is, if you can call it funny, I've used this outlet everytime since we got the AS 6 months ago! I usually don't check the tire pressure until I've turned the trailer around and we're ready to go that way I'm closer to the garage for the compressor. This time I dragged the compressor out on to the driveway.
So even though I am hitched with the plug connected to my TV and to shore power I haven't messed anything up with the TV or trailer?

Thanks for your help!

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Interesting!
I have the main AC cord that came with the trailer plugged into an extension cord (with an adapter) plugged into an outlet on the front porch.
I haven't damaged anything on the trailer have I?

Thanks,

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Hi, Jim Clark is right on track; More than likely a ground problem at your outlet. The little polarity checker is very simple to use / read and very inexpensive to purchase. A must for every trailer and house.

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