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12-01-2016, 12:43 PM
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New Member
2016 27' International
EAGLE
, Idaho
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 3
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Should solar panels and system go directly to batteries?
We have a 2016 Airstream International 27FB that we added solar to when we purchased it. We added additional panels for a total of 300W and change to 2 6volt deep cycle batteries. The system was installed by the local Airstream dealership.
While the trailer was in storage, I would check battery levels and they would drop to 11.25 v. While the system seemed to be working fine, I pulled the batteries for the winter and put them on a battery tender. The batteries were significantly depleted, much more so than I expected.
The question I have is whether the solar should be connected directly to the batteries or not. I believe the intention of the installer was to allow charging when the trailer was in storage and switched to disconnected. My concern is that we store in a covered outdoor space, coupled with overcast fall/ winter days, the solar panels might actually be draining the batteries.
Does anyone have any experience with this? I really expected a 300W system to be able to keep a basic charge. I do turn off and disconnect everything when stored, and I can't find any excessive drain on the system except for the smoke detectors. I understand that a covered space dramatically lessens the charging voltage, but I didn't think we would still be draining the batteries so dramatically since we have solar.
We are new to RV'ing as a whole so please forgive me if my expectations are higher than they should be... and I love the forum so thanks ahead of time!
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12-01-2016, 01:00 PM
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
, USA Living.Somewhere.Yonder
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,359
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How covered is covered? No sun = no charge.
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12-01-2016, 01:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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The propane detector, always connected, has a small load but enough to flatten your batteries in storage. Solar won't help you if you have covered storage; panels are not very efficient and indirect light will do nothing.
Larry
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12-01-2016, 02:02 PM
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Journeyman
2016 25' International
Amherst
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 956
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Yes, anything that's connected to the batteries that is not charging them is draining them.
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12-01-2016, 03:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,107
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I also have a trailer with multiple panels (435 watts) on the roof, and keep it in covered storage. The panels don't work in my storage location, which has an open front facing due south. Only one time have I seen the solar controller producing current when the trailer is parked--and that was only 0.1 amps.
When I am storing the trailer for more than a couple of weeks, I make sure the batteries are charged when I put it away, then I disconnect all the loads (including removing the fuse to the propane detector).
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12-01-2016, 04:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1983 27' Excella
Walnut Grove/Laguna Woods
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,635
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There should be a digital readout on the solar controller. That will show if and how much your solar system is charging your batteries when parked in storage.
Yes, the output from the solar regulator should be connected directly to the batteries. Disconnecting batteries from the regulator with the panels connected can damage some regulators.
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12-01-2016, 05:03 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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[QUOTE=Jim Foster;1882358]There should be a digital readout on the solar controller. That will show if and how much your solar system is charging your batteries when parked in storage.
Yes, the output from the solar regulator should be connected directly to the batteries. Disconnecting batteries from the regulator with the panels connected can damage some regulators.
Jim,
I don't know which solar controllers you have experience with, but NONE of the units that I have used in over 150 solar installations from Blue Sky energy, Morningstar and Victron Energy have NO PROBLEM being disconnected from the batteries they would normanlly be charging.
Thesis one of the many reasons that I install a disconnect switch for the solar array going into the controller and a marine circuit breaker between the controller and the battery bank.
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Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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12-01-2016, 05:05 PM
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#8
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New Member
2016 27' International
EAGLE
, Idaho
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 3
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Thanks everyone for the input. Now I need to figure out what to do if I disconnect the batteries. Should I leave an open circuit or will that damage the solar controller?
Again, I appreciate the input.
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12-02-2016, 10:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
Pleasanton
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 745
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Like Lew said above, there's no issue in having an open circuit for your solar controller. Simply disconnect the negative terminal for each battery you have to isolate the batteries during storage.
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2015 30' Classic, "Chez Nu"
2014 RAM 2500 w/Cummins Diesel
ProPride Hitch, 400 W Solar
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