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Old 05-09-2015, 09:50 AM   #57
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Speaking of battery switch STORE and USE modes, they provide a way to use these modes to protect your batteries from overcharging of the factory converter/charger, while still using it to supply 12 vdc to your trailer's equipment.

We have the factory solar, so when hooked to shore power we put the battery switch in STORE; that isolates the batteries from the factory converter/charger. The solar system will keep the batteries charged. Be sure to switch back to USE mode when unhooked from shore power or you will have no 12 vdc (and no refrigerator as it needs 12 vdc for the propane to work).

Our original converter/charger is working fine even after 24 total months of actual camping (but the solar is our battery charger). We decided to keep it as long as it works, then spend the money on a multi-stage converter/charger.

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Old 05-09-2015, 10:29 AM   #58
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This is not always the case. My 2009 Classic is wired such that the converter is on the battery side of the disconnect switch and switching to Store disconnects most 12v items, but not all (LP detector, jack, etc.). This enables me to charge my batteries while on shore power and solar. It came from Jackson Center wired this way and I like it because my batteries are always topped off by either my 3 stage charger when on shore power and by solar when not.

The important thing is to know which wiring method was used on your particular AS and act accordingly.
I was responding to Lara Me who has a 2014 model. According to the owners manual when in store mode the batteries are disconnected from the 12v bus bars. I'll have to do some experiments to see what if anything still operates with the batteries in store mode and no shore power.
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Old 05-09-2015, 10:48 AM   #59
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According to the owners manual when in store mode the batteries are disconnected from the 12v bus bars.
I don't doubt that. What I'm saying is whether the batteries are charged in Store mode or not depends upon which side of the disconnect switch the converter is wired.
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Old 05-09-2015, 11:08 AM   #60
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I can tell you from looking at the wiring diagram for a 2014 and it is stated in the manual that the converter IS disconnected in the store mode. It even states that the only way to charge the batteries in store mode and no shore power is from the TV.
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Old 05-09-2015, 12:12 PM   #61
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My 2001 had the converter on the battery side of the disconnect switch and this configuration matched the wiring diagram. I suppose this was so you could throw the switch and disconnect all 12V power from the trailer loads. Also the propane detector was on the battery side. I rewired it to put the propane detector on the load side of the switch. Now when I place the switch in store/disconnect position the batteries are isolated from all drains but still connected to the converter.

An interesting subtlety of the PD 4655. I had similar symptoms to the OP, and discovered that the outlet that my converter was plugged into was defective. The LED on the smart charger pendant was flashing normally even though there was no power to the converter. I don't remember which of the flash sequences it was executing, but I was surprised that it seemed to be indicating normal operations with no AC to the converter.

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Old 05-13-2015, 11:52 AM   #62
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I have the PD4655. When not on shore power is the LED supposed to be steady lit? I think mine is on steady when not on shore power. The manual doesn't indicate whether the LED is lit or not.

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Old 05-13-2015, 11:57 AM   #63
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Which LED?
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Old 05-13-2015, 12:54 PM   #64
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I converted to the PD2455 a couple months ago and i'm still trying to figure out a few things:
1. When plugged into shore power do you leave the thrialer switch in use or storage?
2. When towing do you leave the switch in use or storage?
3. I found that the PD2455 LED light flashes regularly (about every second). Does that mean my batteries are charged?
4. What does a slow flashing on the LED mean?
5. What does a solid LED mean?

Thanks in advance for making these questions a it clearer

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I never touch the Use/Store switch. For the rest, download this PDF and put it in your documents bag:

http://www.progressivedyn.com/pdfs/4...tion_guide.pdf
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Which LED?
The Charge Wizard LED. Here are the instructions for what the LED shows when plugged into shore power but is the LED on when you are just running on batteries?


The Charge Wizard Operation:
While the built-in Charge Wizard
automatically determines which operating mode is best suited to recharge or maintain opti-mum battery condition, the Wizard Mode Button allows for manual override and has an indicator light to indicate the mode of operation. (Located on DC board, included)

BOOST MODE
– Indicated by green LED remaining on. The output voltage is 14.4VDC to rapidly recharge the battery up to 90% of full charge.

NORMAL MODE
– When the battery is between 50% and 90% charged, the green LED will flash once per second. When the battery has reached 90% of full charge, the green LED will flash 2 - 3 times per second. In this mode the output voltage is 13.6VDC and the converter is safely completing the charge of the battery.

STORAGE MODE
– Indicated by green LED flashing every 6 - 8 seconds. In this mode the output voltage has been lowered to 13.2VDC, the RV battery is fully charged and the converter is maintaining the charge.

WIZARD MODE BUTTON - The manual button has been provided to allow the operator to temporarily override the con-verter (not recommended) or to verify the converter is operating properly. For manual operation, Press and Hold the button. The indicator light will soon remain “ON” indicating Boost Mode. Continue to hold the button and the light will blink rapidly indicating the converter is in the Normal Mode. Continue to hold the button until the light blinks slowly indicating the con-verter is now in the Storage Mode. After the manual button is released the converter will stay in the selected mode. When the battery charge status changes, the converter will return to the automatic mode of operation to prevent damage to the battery.
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Thanks for the link and answer. When you say you never touch the "use/store Switch" I'm assuming you just leave it in "USE"?
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Now that I have a 3 stage converter I leave the Use/Store switch to Use all the time except in storage. I also disconnect the battery while in storage.

So all you PD4655 owners let me know if the Charge Wizard LED is lit when not connected to shore power.

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Now that I have a 3 stage converter I leave the Use/Store switch to Use all the time except in storage. I also disconnect the battery while in storage.

So all you PD4655 owners let me know if the Charge Wizard LED is lit when not connected to shore power.

Thanks

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I'll have to check mine to see what is going on when not on shore power.

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Thanks for the link and answer. When you say you never touch the "use/store Switch" I'm assuming you just leave it in "USE"?
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Sorry, yes it is in Use mode all the time.
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I have the PD4655. When not on shore power is the LED supposed to be steady lit? Kelvin

I've got the same behavior going on. The LED is lit whether on shore power or battery.
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