Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-18-2016, 02:36 PM   #29
Rivet Master
 
2015 30' Classic
Pleasanton , California
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 617
(propane + cafetiere) OR (propane + aeropress) = great coffee = 0 A
__________________

__________________
Al, K6IV
2015 30' Classic, "Chez Nu"
2014 RAM 2500 w/Cummins Diesel
ProPride Hitch, 400 W Solar
alano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2016, 02:53 PM   #30
Rivet Master
 
Lily&Me's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
Normal , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 13,558
We went to all-stove-top-percolator, all the time, 3-4 years ago, after carrying it primarily for boondocking.

The percolator makes better coffee, and then no need for duplication in the limited space of the Interstate.

Those tiny book lights that you can attach to a book, magazine, Nook, etc., give off a tremendous amount of focused light, the battery lasts a long time....then no need for those reading lights.


Maggie
__________________

__________________
🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚❤️
Lily&Me is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2016, 05:08 PM   #31
Full Time Adventurer
 
BoldAdventure's Avatar
 
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic , USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,743
We like to roast our coffee ourselves, use a hand grinder and then french press. After that I use a hand foamer for my MCT Oil and Butter I put in the coffee, top it off with Cinamon. Oh man. Yum. No power required.
__________________
Family of 4 living, working & exploring the USA in our Airstream.
OUR BLOG | FACEBOOK | INSTAGRAM
BoldAdventure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2016, 05:15 PM   #32
Rivet Master
 
Lily&Me's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
Normal , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 13,558
That's more labor intensive coffee than I am interested in, tho am always willing to drink fancy coffee that others make.

Maggie
__________________
🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚❤️
Lily&Me is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2016, 07:27 PM   #33
2 Rivet Member
 
2011 27' FB Flying Cloud
Delmar , New York
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 28
On some fridges there is an electric heating element to prevent condensation from forming on the strip between the freezer and refrigerator. Some models (like mine) don't have a switch to control it, it's always on. I forget the numbers on how much it draws but I think it was between a 1/2 and 1 amp, 24/7 which adds up quickly. Fortunately the wire for it was clearly identified in the wiring diagram pasted inside the exterior refrigerator compartment. There is now a switch in there to turn it off.
__________________
kenen42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2016, 04:26 PM   #34
Len and Jeanne
 
Len n Jeanne's Avatar
 
2005 16' International CCD
2015 19' Flying Cloud
Creston Valley , British Columbia
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,464
Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba View Post
The water pump takes no power when not pumping water, so there is no need to turn it off when you are out, or inside not using any water.

When the pump runs, it takes 4 to 7 amps. It pumps about 3 gal/minute when operating. So, in 10 minutes it can pump a 30 gal fresh water tank dry.

10 minutes is 1/6 of an hour. So, if the pump takes 6 amps per hour, 1/6 th of that is 1 amp hour to pump 30 gal of water. If it pumps the same 30 gal over two days, the same 1 amp hour is used over two days.

The water pump is NOT a big user of the stored battery energy. And it does not take any power when it is not running, so turning it off and on when you want to get a cup of water, or flush the toilet, does not use less battery capacity.

Thanks for the tip. I think it was actually our AS salesman for Bambi #1 who recommended turning off the pump when it was not in use!

However.... when we need to save battery power, like on our recent 7-day off-grid camping trip in the Mojave desert, we generally have several conservation issues going on at once, such as fresh water and space in the waste water holding tanks. We found that one toilet flush with the water pump turned on would put enough water in the system that we could turn off the pump and flush 2-3 more times without battery power for most (cough, ahem) "uses." Ditto for the bit of water still able to flow from the sink taps.

Somehow for us it makes sense, but possibly more for the fresh and waste water than for the battery.

Incidentally, with two six-volt batteries fully charged prior to our week off-grid, we used our generator just once, for about two hours. That charged the batteries enough for the rest of the camping stay, with careful useage.

I also have a little pocket-size solar panel device called a Power Monkey that we bought from REI that is capable of recharging a Kindle or cell phone. But no cell-phone service in most places where we would be off-grid around Death Valley and the Mojave National Preserve.
__________________
Len n Jeanne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2016, 05:28 PM   #35
Len and Jeanne
 
Len n Jeanne's Avatar
 
2005 16' International CCD
2015 19' Flying Cloud
Creston Valley , British Columbia
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,464
Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba View Post
A former post of mine on Television power use:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f450...er-138719.html

And a repeat of my measured power in my 2014 FC 20'

Amp draw for things in a 2014 20' Flying Cloud "Bambi"

Measured with a Tri-Metric meter and 100 amp shunt.

Water heater, when flame on: .74 amp

Refrigerator, flame on: .32

Refrigerator fan only: .55

Bed lights, reading, each: .17

Bed lights, overhead, 3: dimmest .1
brightest .52

Main overhead lights, 6 dimmest .23
brightest 1.18

Step light: .06
Scare light (floodlight) .13

Table light: High .62
Low .31

Kitchen lights (either, there are 2) High .38
low .19

Bath lights (2, each with high and low) All .72
one high .38
one low .19
Every LED light inside on at the same time: 3.9 amps


Fantastic fan, each: High 1.55
Medium 1.22
Low .93

Bath fan (little, 4" round) 1.5

Kitchen range fan: 2.4

Kitchen range fan lights (halogen) 3.5

Furnace, 18,000 btuh, direct vent burner on: 3.65
fan only: 2.9

Radio, all off, no lights showing: no measure
Radio, disco lights on, no volume: .7
Radio, lights on, medium volume: .9 to 1

Propane detector: .06
(note: mis measured and posted an error recently on the forum, I was off by a factor of 10)

Pump: (variable speed) 2-4

1000 watt sine wave inverter, on, no load 1.76
with TV and DVD plugged in, but not on: 1.76

TV on and DVD playing: 3.6

TV on DVD playing, + radio on for sound: 4.9-5.3

Very small microwave, supplied by inverter: 89

Toaster, supplied by inverter: 75

Apple Mac Book Pro, charged running from
inverter: 3.1 to 3.3


Propane detector Measured 9/1/15 0.076

Inverters (2) Measured 9/1/15 0.02
This is really helpful, idroba. Especially now that I realize how much battery power cooking a meal uses, we might go more towards those supermarket prepared foods we've always resisted, for longer trips where we can't take everything prepared from home. (Our home-made stuff tastes better, is healthier, &c.) We don't carry a toaster. Muffins are fine.

The onboard inverter use seems unnecessary. I bought a portable inverter at an auto parts shop and it plugs into the truck cigarette lighter. It works fine for recharging the laptop, which is where I watch DVDs. If we wanted to watch TV we'd stay at an RV park with hookups.

We really keep the thermostat low when we need to use the furnace at night. Last night we set it for 55F, but that was a bit much. We're headed to the Grand Canyon, though, where we need to run it at night due to sub-freezing temps.

We're coffee hounds, as well, but make it the old-fashioned drip way. We found a collapsible cone at REI to hold filter papers. Boil water on the stove, pour into the cone, then the coffee drips into a stainless steel insulated carafe or directly into the thermos.

We carry a Honda 2000, which is good for running anything but the AC.
__________________
Len n Jeanne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2016, 06:11 PM   #36
3 Rivet Member
 
Caroyl's Avatar
 
1964 26' Overlander
Warner Robins , Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 168
NWGetaways,
Thanks for this thread 😃👍🏻 Would you please list your electric system components? Type and number of batteries, 30 or 50 amp, converter, etc.


Sent from my iPhone using Airstream Forums
__________________
Caroyl & Tim
1964 Overlander "Gracie"
WBCCI # 31088
2009 F-150 "Big Red"
Caroyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2016, 08:45 AM   #37
4 Rivet Member
 
NWGetaways's Avatar
 
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend , Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 273
Hi Caroyl,

I have two 6 volt Lifelines, 220 amp hours each. The only inverter I have is a small 175 watt unit that plugs into the 12 volt socket. Adequate for TV, DVd, and recharging iDevices.
__________________
NWGetaways is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2016, 11:09 AM   #38
3 Rivet Member
 
Caroyl's Avatar
 
1964 26' Overlander
Warner Robins , Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 168
Off Grid Electricity - A Minimalist Approach

Quote:
Originally Posted by NWGetaways View Post
Hi Caroyl,

I have two 6 volt Lifelines, 220 amp hours each. The only inverter I have is a small 175 watt unit that plugs into the 12 volt socket. Adequate for TV, DVd, and recharging iDevices.

Thanks! What converter do you use or do you just recharge with something else?


Sent from my iPhone using Airstream Forums
__________________
Caroyl & Tim
1964 Overlander "Gracie"
WBCCI # 31088
2009 F-150 "Big Red"
Caroyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2016, 12:15 PM   #39
4 Rivet Member
 
NWGetaways's Avatar
 
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend , Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 273
I have a Progressive Dynamics 9260 in the 19' and the stock 3 stage WFCO n the 22'.
__________________

__________________
NWGetaways is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Minimalist vent fan upgrade for 68 Overlander fitzjo1 Roof Vents, Skylights & Fans 0 07-05-2015 02:33 PM
Minimalist restoration of Caravel hodol88 Interior Restoration Forum 6 09-02-2014 09:02 AM
Winter Living off grid in Vermont with woodstove cmell Winter Living 59 10-28-2009 05:02 PM
Seeking To Go Off The Grid! privacy2 Member Introductions 4 07-11-2006 07:31 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.