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06-15-2019, 01:10 PM
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#181
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Hagerstown
, Maryland
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 45
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FYI here’s something I wrote about GFCI theory which includes some simple diagrams. They’re really very simple once you understand the basics of operation. https://www.rvtravel.com/rv-electric...g-gfci-part-i/
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06-15-2019, 07:01 PM
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#182
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Rivet Master
2019 30' Classic
Canfield
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,559
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I don’t have all the details yet, but another Airstream has burned. Seems as if it was in storage and caught on fire. Completely melted.
Sorry for highjacking my own thread, but can this be electrical?
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Tom & Doty
2019 Airstream Classic 30 Twin
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06-16-2019, 06:51 AM
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#183
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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No sign of that fire in an online search. Do you know the location?
Peter
PS -- No recent updates on that Fire thread FWIW:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f543/fire-190179.html
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06-16-2019, 07:00 AM
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#184
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Rivet Master
2019 30' Classic
Canfield
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
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Tod Endl (Arkansaw) from Airstream addicts posted the pictures. It is his trailer. I don't know the year or model. I am not on Facebag but my wife caught this last night.
I don't know if it is OK to post his pictures here so I won't.
Edit: 2005 international and he had problems with refrigerator not cooling.
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Tom & Doty
2019 Airstream Classic 30 Twin
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06-16-2019, 07:12 AM
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#185
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Thanks.
Wow!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/AirstreamAddicts/
Posted at about 8 PM last night +/-. Over 300 comments. I am not a member of Fa[r]ceBook, so I won't dig any deeper, however his posting appears to be viewable by non-members. Maybe a malfunction of the fridge propane valve?
Thanks again,
Peter
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06-16-2019, 09:23 AM
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#186
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Hagerstown
, Maryland
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
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I’m going to investigate this further on my RV Electricity Group and will repost anything I find out on this forum as well. Here is my group: https://m.facebook.com/groups/2605407496153410?view=permalink&id=273862225949859 9&comment_id=2738936816133810¬if_t=group_commen t¬if_id=1560690689435658&ref=m_notif
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06-16-2019, 10:31 AM
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#187
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Hagerstown
, Maryland
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Thanks.
Wow!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/AirstreamAddicts/
Posted at about 8 PM last night +/-. Over 300 comments. I am not a member of Fa[r]ceBook, so I won't dig any deeper, however his posting appears to be viewable by non-members. Maybe a malfunction of the fridge propane valve?
Thanks again,
Peter
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I’ve made contact with the AS owner and will post anything I’m allowed to here.
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06-16-2019, 12:47 PM
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#188
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Thanks. Looking forward to updates. BTW your link in the earlier post is NG.
Peter
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06-16-2019, 01:02 PM
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#189
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Hagerstown
, Maryland
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Thanks. Looking forward to updates. BTW your link in the earlier post is NG.
Peter
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Oops... Here's the link to my RV Electricity group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rvelectricity
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06-17-2019, 06:11 AM
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#190
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3 Rivet Member
2019 30' Classic
Belleville
, Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 105
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Do surge protectors typically also offer ground fault protection?
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06-17-2019, 04:21 PM
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#191
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Hagerstown
, Maryland
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Presitla99
Do surge protectors typically also offer ground fault protection?
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I’m not sure I understand the question but perhaps you could start a new thread and I’ll try to answer your surge protector questions there.
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06-18-2019, 11:48 AM
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#192
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,742
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Presitla99
Do surge protectors typically also offer ground fault protection?
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No, at least not in the sense that a ground fault outlet does. They do normally check for an "open neutral" condition which is not normally called a ground fault.
Bob
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06-19-2019, 07:30 AM
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#193
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Mooresville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,085
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WBCCI Int’l Rally Using Electric Daisy Chain?
I was reading the June, 2019 Blue Beret. Page 39 / Rally reminder #22 states that the 30 Amp service provided will be (electric daisy chain).
Am I reading this correctly? If so, it would appear the same situation could occur that happened at Alumapalooza. Hopefully, someone more knowledgeable than I can weigh in on the electric situation at the event. Item #21 also state they want to avoid overloading the temporary power grid.
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2018 GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax
Equal-I-zer Weight Distribution attached to the Gen-Y Torsion Flex Weight Distribution Hitch
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06-19-2019, 07:42 AM
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#194
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Follow the rules and all is fine.
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06-19-2019, 07:59 AM
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#195
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Rivet Master
2019 30' Classic
Canfield
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xrvr
Follow the rules and all is fine.
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We all followed the rules when we arrived. The wiring was wired wrong. Should they have followed the rules and had the wiring inspected as most community government would require? Would you like me to hire an electrician to check the wiring before we plugged in?
I will follow the rules next year as I will be in the generator group. I can control my environment there unless I still need to figure out if I need to bond my generator!
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Tom & Doty
2019 Airstream Classic 30 Twin
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06-19-2019, 08:05 AM
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#196
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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We have been to a large region 3 rally at Doswell and everything was done right, very professional. Can't say whether it will be done the same way for this bigger rally.
Larry
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06-19-2019, 09:21 AM
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#197
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GOUSC
I was reading the June, 2019 Blue Beret. Page 39 / Rally reminder #22 states that the 30 Amp service provided will be (electric daisy chain).
Am I reading this correctly? If so, it would appear the same situation could occur that happened at Alumapalooza. Hopefully, someone more knowledgeable than I can weigh in on the electric situation at the event. Item #21 also state they want to avoid overloading the temporary power grid.
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Everyone will have dedicated 30A connections, so this is not the 3A daisy chain experienced at Alumapalooza. I believe they are asking for fridges and water heaters to be on propane to make sure there is enough power for 700+ air conditioners. I assume the "daisy chain" comment suggests some 30A extension cords may be used, but that is a guess since I am not involved with the electrical committee.
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Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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