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Old 06-10-2019, 07:03 AM   #141
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:10 AM   #142
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:10 AM   #143
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No one is born knowing everything (though I’ve met some folks who believe they were....). Hashing out a discussion to learn something shouldn’t be problematic. It’s something I love about the forums. I’m still trying to make up my own mind about this and appreciate everyone’s input....

If there is a risk of danger (mountain) that a simple device in these specific circumstances can alleviate - that’s a good thing. If it offers no protection from the issue and serves only to trick an EMS - then yeah - it’s a molehill. I’m still listening and learning - sorry if that’s ticking people off. If you know what you need to know - share it or just avoid the discussion altogether. Makes for a happier life
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:30 AM   #144
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ID:	342944 I have been following along and think I am starting to understand most of what is being said. Maybe. My question is with a Honda Industrial EB2000i, which has a GFI and is “ neutral bonded to the frame” , is it okay to plug into the Airstream without the bonding plug? If I understand correctly, it should be okay. When I test the generator with the plug-in device,which comes with an Airstream, I get the “correct” indication with the lights. I do have a 50 Amp EMS but I don’t use it with the generator mostly because of the size of the EMS an number of adapters I would have to use. Comments?
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Old 06-10-2019, 02:26 PM   #145
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:03 PM   #146
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Attachment 342944 I have been following along and think I am starting to understand most of what is being said. Maybe. My question is with a Honda Industrial EB2000i, which has a GFI and is “ neutral bonded to the frame” , is it okay to plug into the Airstream without the bonding plug? If I understand correctly, it should be okay. When I test the generator with the plug-in device,which comes with an Airstream, I get the “correct” indication with the lights. I do have a 50 Amp EMS but I don’t use it with the generator mostly because of the size of the EMS an number of adapters I would have to use. Comments?
Yes. That generator needs no bonding plug. The bond is built in (hence the working GFCI plug on it.)
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Terrible and scary. I’m so sorry. Hope it is resolved soon.
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:32 AM   #148
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Everyone. Yup, It's Mike Sokol from RVelectricity and the No~Shock~Zone again. Would any of you happen to have pictures of how the power at Alumapalooza was run? I'm especially curious to see how the 20-amp circuit was split to multiple RV's as noted in the very first thread on this post. Thanks....



You can post them here or email mike (at) noshockzone (dot) org. Mike Sokol
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:05 AM   #149
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Everyone. Yup, It's Mike Sokol from RVelectricity and the No~Shock~Zone again. Would any of you happen to have pictures of how the power at Alumapalooza was run? I'm especially curious to see how the 20-amp circuit was split to multiple RV's as noted in the very first thread on this post. Thanks....



You can post them here or email mike (at) noshockzone (dot) org. Mike Sokol
I don't have any specific pictures, but I believe I know how it was run. They had a main breaker box with many 20 amp breakers. They ran white electrical wire on the ground to a pole holding 2 dual-plug electrical receptacles in a metal box. That provided four trailers with a 20 amp circuit. There were 42 trailers in the field, but at least 10-12 were in the generator section with no power. 30 trailers hooked to the electrical system. I was told it was a 20 amp circuit but I can not verify this. We were told we had 3 amps to use. The host said it was a 20 amp circuit. They threw a 5-gallon bucket over the plugs to keep them dry.
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I don't have any specific pictures, but I believe I know how it was run. They had a main breaker box with many 20 amp breakers. They ran white electrical wire on the ground to a pole holding 2 dual-plug electrical receptacles in a metal box. That provided four trailers with a 20 amp circuit. There were 42 trailers in the field, but at least 10-12 were in the generator section with no power. 30 trailers hooked to the electrical system. I was told it was a 20 amp circuit but I can not verify this. We were told we had 3 amps to use. The host said it was a 20 amp circuit. They threw a 5-gallon bucket over the plugs to keep them dry.

When you say "white electrical wire" do you mean some kind of solid conductor Romex wire like you would run inside the walls of your house or RV?
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When you say "white electrical wire" do you mean some kind of solid conductor Romex wire like you would run inside the walls of your house or RV?


yes, romeo.
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:57 PM   #152
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Six pages making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Would it be a mole hill if it was your trailer that had components fried, and an electrified skin?
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Would it be a mole hill if it was your trailer that had components fried, and an electrified skin?
I agree. This appears to be a pretty serious code violation. I’m investigating it further.
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Would it be a mole hill if it was your trailer that had components fried, and an electrified skin?
Yes.it was a problem, it was solved, it now has devolved into a generator grounding thread.
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