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Old 01-04-2015, 10:09 AM   #1
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Melting 30 amp plug

I have had two plugs melt on me while plugged in to a 30 amp post. This has happened over period of 8 months. Both campground might be a little suspect on the electrical side looking back. What is this caused by? Im going to purchase a surge protector before my next outing. Should I replace the plug, or buy a whole new cord. Also is there any difference to look for in purchasing a new cord.
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Old 01-04-2015, 10:13 AM   #2
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Generally this is caused by a loose connection either on your side or the park's side.

Low voltage can also cause this. I would recommend that you get a GOOD plug-in voltage tester to leave plugged into a visible outlet. Don't by an analog one-they are cheap and inaccurate.
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Old 01-04-2015, 10:13 AM   #3
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My 04 did the same thing before I owned it,with the air on and the electric water heater was a bit much as it would trip the breaker,so we jut run one at a time, no problem..
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Old 01-04-2015, 10:19 AM   #4
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I have had two plugs melt on me while plugged in to a 30 amp post. This has happened over period of 8 months. Both campground might be a little suspect on the electrical side looking back. What is this caused by? Im going to purchase a surge protector before my next outing. Should I replace the plug, or buy a whole new cord. Also is there any difference to look for in purchasing a new cord.
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There are a few things that could cause this. Melting is caused by heat and heat is caused by current flowing through resistance. So either there is too much resistance or too much current or both. There are so many variables involved it this, I would strongly suggest you have a certified RV tech check this out for you. I have been involved with electricity since I first got my ham license at the age of 15. I also have 2 years of electrical engineering education. However I would not attempt to try to guide you remotely through the various things that could cause this, because more damage could be done in the process.

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Old 01-04-2015, 10:22 AM   #5
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I have never had the main power cord plug (male end) heat up or melt, but I have had the female plug of the second cord in line (two cords for longer distance) get hot and melt.

I always figured it was a bad connection. I noticed that when I made sure the cords were seated all the way in, and good and tight, there was no problem.

It could be a faulty plug in the electrical box, or perhaps you weren't fully plugged in.
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Old 01-04-2015, 10:34 AM   #6
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I second what Ag & Au said.

One very simple thing - there are a lot more RV's that use 30 amp than that use 50 amp. The outlet itself wears out. I've sometimes plugged in to an outlet that is so worn the plug wants to fall back out. This is an indicator of a poor connection which adds significantly to the resistance and generates HEAT. If you recall the times that you melted a plug - was the outlet loose feeling?

SIMPLE SOLUTION - If the 30 amp plug feels loose, use a "dogbone" 50amp to 30 amp adaptor. It's about a foot long, normally yellow, it plugs into the 50 amp outlet and allows you to plug in your 30 amp cord into the other end. You can find them at most camping stores. (I looked for one at WalMart but just wasn't impressed - poor quality).

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It is almost certainly due to a poor connection at the prongs, combined with heavy current use.




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I agree that those are the most likely problems. However the real question is: What is causing either?

I for one, am not willing to long distance guide someone possibly inexperienced through trouble shooting the problem with definitely lethal voltages along with high current capability present. There are many things in an RV that can be safely worked with when you are not previously trained. However AC line voltage and LP gas are two that should never be attempted unless you are thoroughly knowledgeable about what you are doing and what the dangers are.

My guideline for both is:
If you have to come to an internet forum to ask about them, then you shouldn't be messing with them. Spring for the bucks to have someone who knows what they're doing fix them.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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I had the same thing happen to my 2007 International. The problem was in the pedastel. I purchased a new 30 amp cord and surge protector. I like the idea of the dog bone and using the 50 amp plug. There are questionable power boxes out there. I think we all have plugged into one or two in the past.
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Old 01-04-2015, 12:47 PM   #10
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Some very good advice here. I had the same problem last year and it was basically due to a looser connection at the pedestal than needed. If I don't get a solid, tight, very flat/flush fit on the pedestal, I have a long Velcro strap (and a tennis ball against the back of my plug if needed) I use to snug it there.

While it didn't fully melt (to be useless) the pins did have some oxidation on them. If you have that, it's important to sand/file that off to improve your connection.

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Old 01-04-2015, 12:56 PM   #11
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You should check to make sure that your male prongs are free of corrosion. You can use a wire brush to clean them. The pedestal female receptacles frequently overheat and lose their ability to contact the prongs tightly. This leads to more resistance and problems. If the connection feels loose, do not use it. The 50 amp dogbone is a quick trick to avoid having to repark at a new site.
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Hassle the campground manager

Outdoor plugs are going to wear out a bit faster than indoor ones - Here by the ocean even the fog has some salt in it. Anyone who has ever gone to a hardware store or electrical supply house can find that there are "good/better/best" grades of outlets. Some campgrounds use the cheapest stuff to wire their pedestals and they don't/won't rewire them even when the outlet itself is cracked or too worn to hold the plug in the socket. Strapping the plug in doesn't work, because internally the plug isn't pressing tightly on each prong.

If I get a bad 30 amp, I will always call the campground manager and ask to be moved to another space, OR have someone come out and replace the 30 amp connection itself. I've gotten some flack back, but I am paying for 30 amp electrical, not a primitive site - and so all I'm asking is for the management to supply what I've already paid for. I'll use the dogbone for a night, but next day have the pedestal fixed. Every camper who uses the site will have the same problem. If you're polite about it, you rarely have problems. Once in Ohio an aging owner in an aging campground got nasty when I complained about power problems AND the sewage backing up - and threatened to call his buddy the local sheriff. I had a family situation so I toughed it out. After I left I called the local health inspector. That campground closed. Apparently the septic system had ceased to function quite a few years before... and the owner had diverted the raw sewage into an abandoned quarry. The cost to upgrade the campground and clean up the quarry was apparently prohibitive. (In 10 years or so, the quarry will contain "fertilizer").

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Thanks, Paula - I hadn't thought about the internal wear of the female receptacle itself and the potential non-solution of the Velcro strap! Good to know - and as usual, the rest of your advice is just spot on. Thanks! :-)
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:23 PM   #14
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Haven't had this problem myself -yet - but as usual, good advice given already in this thread.

My guess would lean towards a bad pedestal socket and/or corroded prongs on the plug causing unwanted resistance and overheating.

Mental note made for next time we take our trailer out to make sure our plug prongs are bright and also that I still have a 50-30 adapter stored in the trailer just in case!

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