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Old 10-22-2005, 09:49 AM   #15
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I just ordered my lights from the dealer on Thursday when I brought my trailer up for warranty work. They have only ordered one set previously at this point and that was a replacement for a defective set already on a trailer. I told them that they could install them for me if they will do it for $40....sort of the deal 2air' got from JC. They are thinking about it at this point since their normal labor rate is $95 an hour and I'm sure there is an hour's labor in this.

Looks like I'll be the first one in this neck of the woods to do a conversion.

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Old 10-22-2005, 01:24 PM   #16
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This might be of use

I found this link on an older thread. The prices and compatability look good.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...?product=TRUCK
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:47 PM   #17
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They are thinking about it at this point since their normal labor rate is $95 an hour and I'm sure there is an hour's labor in this.
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It took me less than 1/2 hour to change mine, working alone. Figure about 5 minutes per light. Have phillips screwdriver, diagonal pliers, wire stripper, crimp tool, tube of caulk, caulking gun, and 12 blue crimp splices ready when you start.

One thing to think about is sealing the opening where the wires exit the trailer. When you pull off the bulb units, you have to pull hard to pull the wires out and a big chunk of sealent comes with them. Obviously, the calking was applied from inside the trailer AFTER the lights are mounted and the wire ends in the taillight unit are very short.

I put a piece of 3/8" vinyl tube on the end of a tune of caulk. That allowed me to move the new LED units almost into place and then reach in with the extended nozzle and neatly caulk the opening. That prevented me from having to ball up a lot of wire behind the LED unit.

I think these lights are a great safety change; the turn and stop lights are really bright and, for the first time, I can clearly see my taillights with direct sun on them.

Also, the color code on the left light is obvious. For the right light units, the colors are different. I stripped the wires and made a temporary connection to insure that I was wiring them correctly.
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:58 PM   #18
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I found this link on an older thread. The prices and compatability look good.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...?product=TRUCK
There are no units shown on that site that are even remotely equivalent to the Airstream Classic taillights.
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Old 10-22-2005, 03:05 PM   #19
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I think these lights are a great safety change; the turn and stop lights are really bright and, for the first time, I can clearly see my taillights with direct sun on them.
That's exactly the reason I'm doing this. I've been behind too many trailers which have been back lit by the sun and the standard tail lights on most trailers tend to get washed out.

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Old 10-22-2005, 07:24 PM   #20
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So the question begs to be asked, "why only post 93 unit?" I'd like to convert my 84 MH to LED's for certain. Unfortunately the '57 blubs point sideways and all the LED conversion bulbs point the wrong way. They would need a 90 degree bend to work properly. Has anyone seen a bulb with LED's that face out?
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Old 10-22-2005, 07:30 PM   #21
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So the question begs to be asked, "why only post 93 unit?" I'd like to convert my 84 MH to LED's for certain.
In '93, the style of the taillights chnged. Before that, the lenses were square; afterwards, they were rectangular.

The post '93 conversion is not a bulb. It is a printed circuit board with a lot of LEDs and some other components. The PC board completely replaces the assembly that mounts the bulb and connects directly to the 3 wires that exot the body of the trailer.
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hi jack and others

here are some additional pics of the leds for new 06s or conversion on past years.

a couple of shots of the led/board and 3 wires without the lens.

count'em yep, there are 33 leds on the board...that's 66 per side, 132 in total....
multipin' like rab.... i mean computer ram....
perhaps someday we will be able to order the 1 gigabyte classic!

--brake lights on mid day september, from a slight angle.

--leds with and without the lens same day.

man these these puppies is b r i g h t !!

at night the whole rear area is ablaze in red!

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Old 10-23-2005, 07:50 AM   #23
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2air...

Is there any chance we could impose upon you to put a tape measure on the new LED board? I'm wondering if they could be adapted to the earlier classis MH tail lights. Thanks in advance.
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hi glen and others

i measured the board when i took these pics but for some reason didn't take a shot with the ruler...as i recall the green board itself is 3.4 x 4.7 inches....the top/bottom are curved and there is no room to trim the board smaller as there is a circuit right at the perimeter.... the board is glued and screwed to the black plastic framing that replaces the original fixture.....the black plastic frame is then matches up with the original hardware...

i believe the board could be removed from the framing and that if rotated 90degrees it would just fit inside the older lens....however i don't know enough about wiring/electrical issues to suggest how it would be transplanted into the older fixtures.

here's the closest shot i have of the board and edge details...

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I have a 1985 345 diesel and would love to convert the lights, but they don't look like they would fit. GlenCoombe have you figured it out yet?
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The classic lens is 3.75 x 3.75 so that lets the new retrofit led's out for us.
The question is ... are all the classic trailers the same lens as the classic motorhomes?

How many want to convert....
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Just the safety issue got me interested! So I got the flashlight and went and checked. My 90 Excella lenses is 4 1/4" square. The lenses cover is Monarch 9074. The outside lens starts to wrap around the curve in this pre-96 model.

So the 4.7 inches is too big and 'not trimmable'. But there certainly would be a market for a smaller designed unit.

Surely someone else has a LED unit with more than say 7 LEDs on each unit!

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There are no units shown on that site that are even remotely equivalent to the Airstream Classic taillights.
John,
On the superbrightled.com site the 2nd light is:
ST-R61 Truck Light - Red LED

Truck Stop/Tail/Turn Light with 61 Super RED LEDs
12 VDC, Four inches diameter DOT SAE Approved
Grommet, Flange and Plug sold separately below $ 24.95

Any idea how they are not equivalent? Just wondered about the differences.

Thanks John,
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