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Old 03-04-2016, 12:12 PM   #15
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I use full synthetic from Walmart, in my generator, cars and motorcycle. One car had in excess of 130k miles so treated - never a problem.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:25 PM   #16
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If you don't have an oil filter on your generator you should only use non-detergent oil. Most synthetics are high detergent oil that keeps the inside your engine clean. But without a filter, what is being cleaned just keeps going thru the bearings as dirty oil. That is why most engines have oil filters.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:35 PM   #17
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One more user of Mobile 1 10W30. Used for 5 years no trouble.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:18 PM   #18
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10W30 Amsoil or Royal Purple full synthetic at the first oil change on my Yamaha SEBi3000 generator. I'm up to 325 hours with no troubles. I also run nonethanol mid grade gas.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:35 PM   #19
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If you don't have an oil filter on your generator you should only use non-detergent oil. Most synthetics are high detergent oil that keeps the inside your engine clean. But without a filter, what is being cleaned just keeps going thru the bearings as dirty oil. That is why most engines have oil filters.
I use high detergent oil( chevron) in my model A, my T and in my generator and all the lawn mowers here, and never had any trouble, this is 2016.....
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Old 03-04-2016, 10:52 PM   #20
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A short story

My wife & I were on a four day ATV trip up above Creed, Colorado with Kawaski 400 always 4X4 and her Kawaski 300 2x4. Seventeen miles from base camp on the second morning I started our quads and moved them about 50 feet under tree cover and covered up everything and we spent the remainder of the day hiking Wheeler Geologic Area.

When we returned to our machines to head out across the divide trails the 400 would not start. I am not totally ignorant of things mechanical and tried every thick in the book to get the 400 started. No joy.

Because of the area, I knew there was no chance of getting a vehicle into our location to tow the 400 back to base camp so the decision was made to tow the 400 behind the 300 back out.

There is about 100 pounds difference between the two quads not counting our gear.

Regardless, after 7 hours of very rough terrain and greatly exceeding the rated ability of the 300 cc engine, we made it back to base camp.

So where am I going with all this? The next morning when I examined the cowling of the 300, I noticed that the brass oil lines on the outside of the engine had melted through the cover. I figured the 300 was junk.

Imagine my surprise when the 300 fired right up and continues to run like a chamo to this day! The oil was Moble1 10W 30. If the oil would have been anything else the engine would have fried.

Turns out that the resistor plug on the 400 cracked because the very short duration I ran it that second morning caused the failure. Uneven heating between the plug tip and the cylinder head cracked the resistor in the plug. I also learned that the plugs on both machines are identical. Stupid me did not try swapping plugs which would have made it very much easier to get back out of the mountains pulling the lighter ATV with the all time 4x4 quad.
Duh.

We run nothing but Mobile1 in all of our small engines.

Happy Trails!
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Old 03-06-2016, 05:58 PM   #21
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I would not put non-detergent oil in anything Accept air compressors to reduce foaming. Not even lawn mowers use it.

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I would not put non-detergent oil in anything Accept air compressors to reduce foaming. Not even lawn mowers use it.

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If one checks ,he will find that most oils now have non - foaming properties ...
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Old 03-07-2016, 06:40 AM   #23
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Why do most car and truck engines have oil filters?
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:17 AM   #24
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Honda oil has all the additives, but its not the highest grade you can buy.
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Honda oil has all the additives, but its not the highest grade you can buy.
Sort of a rhetorical question, isn't it?

Doesn't have anything to do with detergent/vs. non-detergent oil....nor aeration (foaming) though.
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