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Old 12-14-2015, 10:18 PM   #1
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Honda generator suggestions from Honda

After deeply inquiring to Honda Service Corporation about Honda EU2000i & Companion EU2000i gas concerns, I have been informed how to minimize future disappointments regarding ethanol gasoline usage;

Keep the gas tank full to the top of the red ringed screen ( under the gas cap) with fresh gasoline including additive (Stabil, Sea Foam, etc) operate the generator for at least 3 minutes allowing treated gasoline to fully enter the carburetor, shut off the generator at the on/off switch, then drain carburetor at the drainage port. Close the gas cap vent.

They strongly suggest a once a month start up of the generator allowing it to operate for several minutes before referring to the above shut down/monthly storage procedure.

The concern of the fuel pump diaphragm becoming deteriorated from completely emptying the gas from the generator is not true. The diaphragm is a typical small engine diaphragm. No rocket science here. Honda, operates EVERY generator before it leaves for shipment. They use aircraft fuel (gas) which causes no carburetor residue upon shipment or generator shelf storage prior to sale.

Surely every individual Honda owner has their preference on Honda knowledge or expertise but this info is from the horse's mouth not it's behind. The Honda generators are pricey & my original thread was to get the best info possible. Sometimes doing your own proper homework is to inquire from the manufacturer. Merry Christmas!
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Old 12-14-2015, 10:28 PM   #2
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For ALL of my outdoor power equipment, I use only "real" non-ethanol gas. Learned that after fighting with ethanol gas/seafoam for a season or two. I install a fuel cutoff valve between the carburetor and the gas tank if at all possible. If that is not possible, I'll definitely empty the tank as much as possible then run the engine until it starves.
Ethanol gas is hard on any system that might allow gas to sit for any appreciable time.


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Old 12-14-2015, 10:46 PM   #3
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I have many small engines. My oldest is a 1985 chainsaw. I almost exclusively use ethanol gasoline. I run the ones with a gas shutoff valve dry after use and drain the ones without if they are gonna sit more than a week or two. I have never had fuel related issues.
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I have many small engines. My oldest is a 1985 chainsaw. I almost exclusively use ethanol gasoline. I run the ones with a gas shutoff valve dry after use and drain the ones without if they are gonna sit more than a week or two. I have never had fuel related issues.
Me too, and I have DECADES old 2 strokes and 4 strokes. Most all of which have never had any carb work at all.
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As far as my Honda gennies. I follow Honda's method above, but I only usually start them and run them once during their winter storage...usually about February. They are fine running E10.
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Old 12-15-2015, 10:09 AM   #6
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This requires a certain amount of dis-assembly to access the drainage port in the 2000, doesn't it, at least in older models?

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Or, shut off at fuel / electric switch but remove the "kill" wire from the fuel / electric shut off switch and run engine until it runs out of gas ...
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This requires a certain amount of dis-assembly to access the drainage port in the 2000, doesn't it, at least in older models?

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2003 model year.

Take off the panel....

POI...the yellow line is LPG supply.

The drain is very accessible at the bottom of the carb.....it doesn't have to removed completely.



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Old 12-15-2015, 11:20 AM   #9
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I run airplane fuel in all my small engines and never have any issues
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Old 12-15-2015, 12:44 PM   #10
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Why not use avgas/100LL exclusively? Sure it is about double+ the price of auto/mogas but I don't believe an RVer would use enough of it to make much difference in the expense account. Avgas is formulated for just this sort of thing as many aircraft sit for weeks or even months at a time then started, warmed up and flown away without any fuel problems year after year. As far as availability, just pull into any smaller town or county airport and find the FBO-Fixed Base Operator (the company that provides services at the airport) with your 1 or 2 five gallon red gas cans and ask somebody for some avgas-there is only one grade widely availably,100 Low Lead. They will happily take you and your credit card out to the self service pump to fill your containers. There a lot of myths about using avgas such as more power and burning hotter.....not true!!! The higher octane enables one to advance the timing without pinging which will in turn produce more power. The more stable burn which is what higher octane produces, if anything, will run cooler. The only two downsides 1:I've heard it could cause harder starting, probably 'cause it is more stable. Never noticed it myself. 2: Could cause spark plug fouling after some time. Easy fix: just take out the plug and clean it with a wire brush. Avgas is safe to use in everything (that I know of) that doesn't have a catalytic converter. 2 stroke or 4 stroke!!!
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Thanks Bob, amazing how complicated one online source made it sound, when a simple nickel will still open things up . . .

Mine is the same.

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Where does one buy airplane fuel? Would Coleman gasoline be sufficiently pure not to cause problems?
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I have posted this several times. Here is where you can get alcohol free gas all over the US. No need to go to a general service airport, although that is another source.

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
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Coleman fuel is not gasoline. It's Naptha--or something like it. Not good for engines as I recall.

(Edit) Verified on Google--it's for sure Naptha, not unleaded gasoline without additives. Good for camp stoves and lanterns ONLY


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