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Old 08-01-2006, 11:37 PM   #1
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Help with Wiring to Tow Vehicle

Last night I was trying to connect a 7 pin connection to my 69 Overlander as one of the PO's had replaced it with a 6 pin and only hooked up the brake lights, turn signals and running lights. No brakes and no charging.

I put it all together in what I think is right and when I plugged it into the TV, I heard some pretty good sparking so I stopped.

The brake lights, turn signals and stuff makes sense, but I want to clarify the Charge Line and the Ground Line.

While looking at the wiring up front of the coach, I see a blue wire coming from the left attached to the bolt of the plug cover. (Don't know if I am explaining this very well...) From there another wire looks like that is what was for the actual plug. I assume this is the charge line.

On the right side, I see two white wires attached to the bolt on the right side where another white wire comes off of. I assume this is the ground line.

If everything is hooked up properly, is it normal to hear sparking when plugging it into the TV?

The jist of this post is... HELP?!?! Any ideas on what I might have done wrong? What damage will I do if I have it wired incorrectly and just plug it in to really see what is happening?

Any troubleshooting tips would be appreciated.
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Old 08-02-2006, 12:10 AM   #2
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Try this : http://www.airforums.com/forum...ons-20279.html Also do a search on 7 pin wiring diagram

Also, sparking is bad !!

White "should" be ground but, two white wires ?
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Old 08-02-2006, 04:37 AM   #3
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Help with Wiring to Tow Vehicle

Greetings Andy!

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Originally Posted by Hind-Sight
Last night I was trying to connect a 7 pin connection to my 69 Overlander as one of the PO's had replaced it with a 6 pin and only hooked up the brake lights, turn signals and running lights. No brakes and no charging.

If everything is hooked up properly, is it normal to hear sparking when plugging it into the TV?

The jist of this post is... HELP?!?! Any ideas on what I might have done wrong? What damage will I do if I have it wired incorrectly and just plug it in to really see what is happening?

Any troubleshooting tips would be appreciated.
Airstream utilized wiring schematic that used neither the color coding or Bargman plug pin pattern common to today's tow vehicles. The link below will take you to a document that has the wiring pattern and color codes as used in 1969:

http://www.airstream.com/airstream/p...lug1966-81.pdf

The link below will take your to a document that has the industry standard that is typically found in most modern tow vehicles:

http://www.marksrv.com/wiring.htm

Good luck with your finding your wiring gremlin!

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Old 08-02-2006, 09:29 AM   #4
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Before starting the task, I searched here and used those very docs to point me in the right direction.

Hoping to get out there tonight and try again. I'll start by not connecting the charge line (or what I think is the charge line) and see what happens. I'll slowly remove pieces of the puzzle to troubleshoot where the problem is and then put it back together.

If it still doesn't work, I'll take pictures of what is there and see if that will spark (no pun intended) an idea of someone here.

Thanks for the responses, and hopefully, my next post will be a positive one.

Later,
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test the line that you are "assuming" is the charge line with a volt meter. If the battery is connected, it will have 12v on it.

the wires that are attached to the bolts on the connector are ground wires. one of them is the ground for the electric brakes.
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We need help with our 1967 Airstream Globe Trotter. Wiring and electric brakes. Cannot open airstreamforums.com/forum...ons20279.html Would like to find drawings and directions to help us do the work ourselves. Thanks
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have you tried hooking up an alligator clipped wire to the hot center post while plugged in to shore power...then testing the pins that are for the lights, etc? I di that and was able to see what worked right and what did not, and what needed only bulbs. If you get sparks then you know you are grounded out somewhere.
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Car ( tow vehicle side)
1

white
10
common ground- same on trailer
2
blue
12
electric brake- to yellow on trailer
3
green
14
tail/running lights to green on trailer
4
black
10
battery charge (+) to blue on trailer
5
red
14
left turn/stop – to red on trailer
6
brown
14
right turn/stop to brown on trailer
7
yellow
14
auxiliary/back up- to black on trailer



trailer side
NEW CORD (yellow) --> TRAILER (black) : aux/back up

NEW CORD (black) --> TRAILER (blue) : charge line


NEW CORD (blue) --> TRAILER (yellow) : brake

Having a hrad time formatting this, let me know if it is not readable for you. I can email the diagrams
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Alansd in Roseell Georgia. Have made a copy of what you posted. If you can email to floyd5085@aol.com the diagram you suggested. Iam at work
trying to get the answers for my husband at home trying to make it work.
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