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05-17-2012, 11:32 AM
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New Member
1995 25' Excella
Sevierville
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Join Date: May 2012
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Generator safety
I have just purchased a Honda 3000is generator. Is it safe to leave on the truck bed with a camper cover while running the generator if tailgate is left open and windows open? I know we have to be careful re carbon monoxide but how much ventilation is needed? Husband will not (repeat NOT) take the camper off the truck. Thanks
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05-17-2012, 12:55 PM
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Rivet Master 
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
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As long as there are no oxygen breathing critters inside of the shell, I see no reason you can't do it.
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05-17-2012, 01:38 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1992 29' Excella
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THE RANCH
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Howdy...what about only leaving the windows open and the tailgate locked...you know why!???!!
I NEVER remove my camper.....it is just too handy! Just lock it and the tailgate and am good to go...blessings....Callie
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05-17-2012, 01:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pmanning
Husband will not (repeat NOT) take the camper off the truck
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One possible solution is husband stays in camper.
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05-17-2012, 03:09 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TG Twinkie
As long as there are no oxygen breathing critters inside of the shell, I see no reason you can't do it.
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Not entirely true. Generators don't like to breathe carbon monoxide, either. It will run a whole lot better if it's not choking on its own exhaust fumes.
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05-17-2012, 04:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
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I am assuming the generator would sit just I side the tail gate and the tailgate would be opened as well as the topper doors and windows. I Don't believe the generator would be breathing it's own exhaust in this case.
People have been known to haul their pets in carriers in the back along with their equipment. I wouldn't want my pet inside the topper when the generator is running, even with everything open.
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05-17-2012, 06:12 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
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Welcome aboard....
Don't for get the stink... 
A little cornfused....a portable generator that's not portable. Whats the point?
Our 2000i runs fine in a tent.
Bob
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05-17-2012, 07:10 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
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As long as you leave the tailgate down, you could point the exhaust toward the open air (and maybe the trailer if hitched). Open the side windows on the camper for better circulation.
I think the 3,000 watt weighs close to 100 lbs., so I can see why they don't want to move it.
Gene
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05-17-2012, 07:18 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
Not entirely true. Generators don't like to breathe carbon monoxide, either. It will run a whole lot better if it's not choking on its own exhaust fumes.
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Can you say EGR? 
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05-17-2012, 07:22 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrawfordGene
As long as you leave the tailgate down, you could point the exhaust toward the open air (and maybe the trailer if hitched). Open the side windows on the camper for better circulation.
I think the 3,000 watt weighs close to 100 lbs., so I can see why they don't want to move it.
Gene
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It will work just fine, send the exhaust out the side window. Weighs closer to #150.
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05-18-2012, 05:34 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Looks like the 3000is with electric start weighs in at 134lbs, the 3000handi at 78lbs.
My bad  ...not so portable after all, sorry.
Bob
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05-18-2012, 07:03 AM
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New Member
1995 25' Excella
Sevierville
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Join Date: May 2012
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Thanks for the advice Hubby will be happy he doesn't have to haul that thing in and out of truck everytime we change sites. Stay calm and carry on!
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05-20-2012, 05:23 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2004 30' Classic
Hillsborough
, New Jersey
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I have been doing that for years. I open the window on the cap, leave the tailgate open. Sometimes I set up a fan to blow the fumes out of the truck bed and add some cooling air to the generator. wolf146
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05-20-2012, 06:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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I used to do this with an OLD diesel truck that would not start below 10*F unless the block heater was plugged in.
I ran a 2400 watt gennie in the bed with a cap on it. With just the side windows opened on the cap, it would choke and die on its own exhaust after an hour or so. with the cap side windows AND the cap rear gate window open, it was fine.
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05-20-2012, 07:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
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The original Honda 3000 blows cooling air over the muffler and also picks up the exhaust gasses in the cooling air stream. There is a relatively large grill on one end that both the heat and exhaust air come out of. The gasses are quite diluted by all this excess cooling air. I think you will be just fine if you simply direct the cooling air to the open rear of the truck cap, that is not to one side or to the front of the truck, but out the back.
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05-21-2012, 11:04 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1988 29' Excella
Livingston
, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf146
I have been doing that for years. I open the window on the cap, leave the tailgate open. Sometimes I set up a fan to blow the fumes out of the truck bed and add some cooling air to the generator. wolf146
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Howdy!
I agree if you believe you may have a problem place a fan in the rear of the TV plugged into the generator to vent it and supply cool air.
"Happy Trails"
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05-21-2012, 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrawfordGene
As long as you leave the tailgate down, you could point the exhaust toward the open air (and maybe the trailer if hitched). Open the side windows on the camper for better circulation.
I think the 3,000 watt weighs close to 100 lbs., so I can see why they don't want to move it.
Gene
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Gene,
There are two versions of the 3000, one weights 78 lbs, the other, 134 lbs.
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05-21-2012, 01:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
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I would strongly consider a fan to remove exhaust and heat. Generators produce a lot of heat and you don't want to burn up something that expensive. As long as the exhaust and the cooling air are vented away then you are good. Some sort of thermometer on the air intake of the generator might be a good idea just to see how much hotter the air going into the generator is than the outside air temp. As someone else said moving the generator to the tailgate would be a good idea.
Perry
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05-21-2012, 01:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 22' Safari
Vassar
, Michigan
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I placed my Honda 3000 in a black feeder tray from Farm & Fleet. When I run the generator I just slide it out on to the tailgate with the exhust facing to the side. Slides very easy and stays chained to the truck. No fumes inside the topper.
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05-23-2012, 09:54 AM
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2 Rivet Member Commercial Member
Alpharetta
, Georgia
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I know of some EU3000is users who run the generator in a confined space, and this can cause the engine to drawn in exhaust gas. This often causes the spark arrestor to become clogged with deposits. The arrestor is a thin window-screen type of material, and it can become so restricted and affect the engine's operation by limiting the exhaust flow, creating backpressure, etc.
While you can clean the deposits from the arrestor, it's best to have plenty of open space on all sides of the generator for performance and safety reasons. Honda says this should be 3 feet. FWIW.
-Robert@Honda
Caveat: I work for Honda, but the preceding was my opinion alone.
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