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10-20-2016, 08:29 AM
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#41
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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Split System A/C
Photos
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10-20-2016, 09:55 AM
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#42
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,664
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BambiTex
Unlike roof units, my split system (compressor sits on the tongue) requires no large start up load, just slowly cycles up from 0 to 10 amps, which is the max current draw on Max Cool. It is also extremely quiet. It is a one ton (12,000 BTU) unit but provides plenty of cooling to keep the trailer at 74 degrees even in 95+ outdoor temps.
While dry camping at the ABQ Balloon Fest we ran the A/C along with the 3 stage battery charger, lights, and fridge with all the power coming from the Honda 2000 running on LP.
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OK; I understand...you have a "hybrid" unit...not a factory installed "newer" roof A/C unit. Makes sense. Glad your able to make it all work. With the 1500 AC, not likely even close to working for my set up. Thanks for the pictures and information.
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10-22-2016, 06:55 PM
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#43
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Tiny trailer and no humidity. Easy work.
1990 35' Silver Streak
2004 555 Cummins
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10-23-2016, 10:13 AM
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#44
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,664
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Noisy generators do not belong in camp grounds....
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Originally Posted by switz
That 50 amp Champion would be great for a job site, but perhaps not so great at a camp ground where the neighbors are so close together..
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I second your comment, switz! There were a few times this summer in Glacier, where a couple RV'rs had the "industrial" style generators and they were extremely intrusive while running, for many campers as far as 5 camp sites away in a couple cases. So bad, that some of the camp sites are restricting locations now, where no generators are allowed anymore. I can see this ban spreading unless they have a noise limit. I got rid of my new Honeywell 2400 because of the noise earlier this year and got the Champion 1800-2400 which is about same as the Honda 2000. When I started the Honeywell the first time at the park, my wife and I "cringed" due to the noise. I only used it 2 times and sold it that same week. I remember somewhere in CA where they had this, or perhaps it was AR? Don't remember, but I do remember the noise when the noisy generators are running...its the talk of all the neighbors....
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10-23-2016, 08:31 PM
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#45
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Rivet Master
2021 27' Globetrotter
Fort Lauderdale
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 606
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I wonder if there is a Diesel genset that fits permanently on the truck's bed, silent enough for a campground and delivering. 4KW+? Am I dreaming?
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10-23-2016, 08:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2021 27' Globetrotter
Fort Lauderdale
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 606
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Anyone with words about Cummins Onan 6.0 HDKAH-1044 RV QD 6000 Quiet Diesel 6.0kw Generator Trailer RV Motorhome Camper?
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10-23-2016, 08:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,670
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I did consider the Yamaha 2400 but according to Yamaha's website it is not suitable to run a 13,500 btu A/C. I know folks do it. But read the link.
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That is not the Yamaha site but National Generators' site. I contacted Yamaha after speaking with US Carb, one of their dealers, a few years ago (to double check) before I purchased a 2400isHC and they told me that it was designed to run motors up to its limit- they left it generic but agreed with the dealer who specifically said AC units included. Here is Yamaha's site, which says something different than National Generator's site. Note bullet #4 This model boasts High Current output which is designed specifically to increase motor starting capability and to improve air conditioner starting. This High Current model starts most high efficiency 13,500 btu AC in temperatures up to 110° F.. In other words, if your motor is within its power limits, it will be fine. You do want an inverter type though. What others are talking about as being noisy, that has much to do with inverter vs. traditional style which are cheaper. We have a regular generator for home emergency and it is LOUD. Sounds like the Fair is in town when we use it! The two big names in inverter types are Honda and Yamaha though there are now others out there. I run mine on LP only now. No gummed up carb and great for once in a while usage. Consider that too. If you buy a gas only unit, you have to deal with the fuel getting old, etc. The tri-fuel is the way to go.
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/ge...ter-ef2400ishc
This is where I ordered from. They were very helpful.
http://www.motorsnorkel.com/yamaha-e...line-only.html
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2022 Ford F150 PowerBoost Platinum w/7.2KW
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10-23-2016, 09:28 PM
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#48
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,364
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Or, you could get this dual fuel 3500 watt unit that can run a 15K BTU AC...
https://shar.es/1EQXTz
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10-24-2016, 07:54 AM
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#49
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,664
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCStreamer
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I saw the Champion 2800-3400 gas model yesterday at Costco for $699. I know it will run the 1500 as I used my neighbors earlier this summer. This same model is available for less than $1000 with Dual Fuel on Amazon, with electric start...just saying....reliable and less cost than others and very quite also...but Yamaha and Honda are great also.
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10-24-2016, 07:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,364
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Champion has a lot of models up to 3500 watts at different prices to suit all needs and budgets. I'm on the market and am planning on getting the 3500 dual fuel.
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10-24-2016, 09:02 PM
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#51
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,670
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That Champion sounds great, I read the description
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10-24-2016, 10:39 PM
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#52
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,210
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Yes, our home generator for power outages is a Honda EU6500. We plug it into the house via a GenTran switch. It is relatively loud, would never take it to a campground even if we *could* lift it into the truck.
For camping we have a Honda EU2000i Companion modded by GenConnex to run on propane. So far, it's been really great.
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Rocinante Piccolo is our new-to-us 2016 Interstate Lounge 3500 EXT
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10-26-2016, 02:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2021 27' Globetrotter
Fort Lauderdale
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 606
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http://www.americanrvcompany.com/Cum...torhome-Camper Is a 6KW diesel generator that claims: "Sound Level:
Meets National Park Service sound level requirements (60 dB @ 50ft.) for National Park use"
I read that the Honda 2KW delivers (up to) 59db. Maybe the catch is on the '50ft' spec?
While heavy, the Onan (Cummings motor?) will use the same fuel as my truck (F350) and permanently mounted on the truck's bed, harder to steal, and on a pinch could provide juice to my house.
Any input appreciated!
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10-26-2016, 05:04 AM
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#54
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Rivet Master
Lakes Region
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
Yes, our home generator for power outages is a Honda EU6500. We plug it into the house via a GenTran switch. It is relatively loud, would never take it to a campground even if we *could* lift it into the truck.
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This is the route I went, living in New England got a Fuel Injected Honda EU7000IS to run the house if needed and converted to propane, it now lives secured in the truck bed, I just park closer if I need it for the house.
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10-26-2016, 09:42 AM
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#55
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyNH
This is the route I went, living in New England got a Fuel Injected Honda EU7000IS to run the house if needed and converted to propane, it now lives secured in the truck bed, I just park closer if I need it for the house.
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Sounds like a reasonable approach, though I don't know the noise levels for the EU7000IS. OTOH, if I were buying a house-sized generator today, I would definitely buy an inverter version as you did. When we bought our EU6500 back in 1999, I didn't know such a thing existed.
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10-26-2016, 10:26 AM
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#56
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,210
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Looks like a really nice generator. From our perspective it's bigger than we'll need for most of our camping and has a price tag to match, but if we wanted something that size and our TV ran on diesel it would be on our list for consideration. Before investing in one I'd want to listen to it somewhere to be confident of the noise level and see what reviews I could find.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitaver
http://www.americanrvcompany.com/Cum...torhome-Camper Is a 6KW diesel generator that claims: "Sound Level:
Meets National Park Service sound level requirements (60 dB @ 50ft.) for National Park use"
I read that the Honda 2KW delivers (up to) 59db. Maybe the catch is on the '50ft' spec?
While heavy, the Onan (Cummings motor?) will use the same fuel as my truck (F350) and permanently mounted on the truck's bed, harder to steal, and on a pinch could provide juice to my house.
Any input appreciated!
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Rocinante Piccolo is our new-to-us 2016 Interstate Lounge 3500 EXT
(Named for John Steinbeck's camper from "Travels With Charley")
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10-26-2016, 10:39 AM
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#57
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jake74
My 3000eui Honda pulls my 13,500btu a/c unit with ease. It sips gas and is so very quite. It is very high quality. I looked at all the other brands and thought why try to save a few hundred bucks on something I need to work when I need it.
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Ditto ... so long as it fits into your budget ...EU3000iS
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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10-27-2016, 07:46 AM
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#58
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2 Rivet Member
2023 30' Flying Cloud
Garden City
, Alabama
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitaver
http://www.americanrvcompany.com/Cum...torhome-Camper Is a 6KW diesel generator that claims: "Sound Level:
Meets National Park Service sound level requirements (60 dB @ 50ft.) for National Park use"
I read that the Honda 2KW delivers (up to) 59db. Maybe the catch is on the '50ft' spec?
While heavy, the Onan (Cummings motor?) will use the same fuel as my truck (F350) and permanently mounted on the truck's bed, harder to steal, and on a pinch could provide juice to my house.
Any input appreciated!
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My class A has this same generator in it. It uses a 3 cylinder kubota engine. It is super cheap on fuel and is quite. It will pull 2 a/c units plus some with out issue. Mine is a 6kw quite diesel.
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10-27-2016, 11:44 PM
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#59
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Rivet Master
2021 27' Globetrotter
Fort Lauderdale
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 606
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Kubota? I thought it was Cummings... . How do you dela with supplying fuel? The QD 8000 Onan has no built in tank. I was thinking on getting one of those toolboxes that include a diesel tank.
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10-28-2016, 02:10 PM
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#60
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Rivet Master
2021 27' Globetrotter
Fort Lauderdale
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 606
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Bad news about the Onan QD series: they can only be serviced from underneath, so no way to bolt it to the truck's bed. It needs to be mounted on brackets that lift it at least 8 inches... Back to square one
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