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Old 10-08-2016, 12:51 PM   #15
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I'd have to ditto the Yamaha 2400. I had a Honda EU2000i and was very satisfied. I'd actually been watching Craigslist for a long time for a reasonable price on a used one a reasonable distance away. The Honda 2000 will, most likely, run your air if nothing else is drawing power. I decided to scan around for a Yamaha and was lucky enough to run into a new in box 2400 ishc for $800 so I snapped it up. I am quite impressed with it's build and capabilities. Although I'm ok with choosing air, or charging the batteries and running the microwave, it is very nice not to have to decide. I'd think at this point you're going to have to tough it out and pick up that "just in case" generator later, for the next unexpected need.
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Old 10-08-2016, 08:36 PM   #16
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Ditto on the Yamaha. Starts and runs a single rooftop ac without lugging around two generators.
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:46 AM   #17
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I looked at the 2400 before deciding on the 2000 with propane conversion. I could not safely lift the 2400 and do not have a pick up truck to store it in. Hope to eventually get a second 2000 so that I can run the AC without burning it out.
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Old 10-10-2016, 01:16 PM   #18
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I looked at the 2400 before deciding on the 2000 with propane conversion. I could not safely lift the 2400 and do not have a pick up truck to store it in. Hope to eventually get a second 2000 so that I can run the AC without burning it out.

Might look at posts by Lewster on combining solar + inverter generator to power trailer.

There just is no easy, safe or "affordable" way to fully power one of these trailers it seems.

I've looked at ONAN Diesel gensets. $10k plus 700-lbs. Plus mods and fab to Diesel truck. Etc. I figure Id have at least five into a used one plus mods, even for something lighter in weight (as don't really need 7k W).

Then, lower rpm with better duty cycle. That last bit is what really counts in extended power outages.


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Old 10-10-2016, 02:36 PM   #19
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Champion generators work well

I purchased a Champion 1800-2400 earlier this year and it works very well. Starts every time and is rated same noise/weight as Honda. You can also stack 2 and connect your 30A A/C, like Honda or Yamaha, but total cost is 1/2 ($450-$470 ea) of the Honda or Yamaha units...less than $1000 for 2 including adaptor for 30A plug. Your likely going to need 2 of these or purchase a larger 3000+ size unit to run the A/C and other electrical devices. Next size up is the Champion 2800-3400(my neighbor has) this will run 1500WA/C unit and other stuff also...it is rated quite as Honda 3000 and less than 1/2 price of Honda. Neighbor got his at Costco for $699.
The one I am looking at now that I'm back in TX, is the Champion dual fuel model 3400 (propane or gas), (3rd item below). It is fairly light weight, quiet, dual fuel, and priced less than half of Honda or Yamaha similar size models. I love Honda and Yamaha, but these work well for half the money and Champion is a good solid brand in this market, IMHO. They also have industrial generators, if noise is not an issue for you, for a lot less also.
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:03 PM   #20
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I highly recommend the Champion dual fuel 3100/3400 watt (model 100263). I bought mine a few weeks ago. I finished breaking it in this weekend by running the recommended 5hrs at light load. I changed the oil today and finally turned on the 15k AC. It powered right on with no problems (with the fridge on electric and some lights on). The volts dropped from 119 to 117 and held steady. The Champion did not appear to be struggling. It is louder at idle than my 2000 watt Powerhorse, but sounds quieter under load. I have only run it on propane and do not intend to use gas. It feels well built and is not too heavy for me to pick up.
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I bought a Yamaha 2000 not long ago. Haven't used it much but happy with it thus far. It's very quiet and starts easily.

I did consider the Yamaha 2400 but according to Yamaha's website it is not suitable to run a 13,500 btu A/C. I know folks do it. But read the link.

http://www.yamahagenerators.com/Yama...ef2400ishc.htm

NOTE: The EF2400iSHC will NOT run most Air Conditioner units and does NOT have a 30 amp electrical receptacle. Yamahagenerators.com does not recommend purchasing this model to run your Air Conditioner. Please contact Customer Service to help you find the correct size generator for your needs.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:47 AM   #22
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I am sure all of the generators recommended will serve your purpose, however, the one thing I strongly recommend that you take into consideration is the weight of the generator. It is a lot easier to lift two small generators from the back of your TV then one big one. Especially as you get older.
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:25 AM   #23
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The champion inverter generator 3100 dual fuel will run gas and LP and you'll save $800 and money on the second Honda because you'll only need one.Honda is over rated.Ive been doing some research and am reading good things on champion just as quiet as a Honda.
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Old 10-11-2016, 03:04 PM   #24
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2 generators vs 1; which makes more sense?

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I am sure all of the generators recommended will serve your purpose, however, the one thing I strongly recommend that you take into consideration is the weight of the generator. It is a lot easier to lift two small generators from the back of your TV then one big one. Especially as you get older.
I agree with you on the weight consideration; I really like the Champion I purchased earlier this summer. I can handle the 1800-2400 Champion at 48 lbs, without much trouble. Two of them would be 98lbs, plus the controller with 30A plug; the Champion Dual Fuel/electric start model, lists at 95 lbs, which I can also handle. If I did not want Dual Fuel, the gas only model is 80 lbs,and is $699 at Costco; $809 on Amazon.

In TX, I will likely use the generator more often for AC so larger unit makes more sense. I keep my generator in back of F150, so weight is not an issue each time I use; just start and plug in. If I were to use 2, I have the extra hassle of 2 gas tanks to keep full, stacking them together, and hooking up each time. (but, each smaller unit would be easier to move, were I to need to move). As for noise, I did download the DB meter (free app) on my cell phone. I compared my Champion 1800-2800 to the Honda 2000 and found the Champion just a tad louder (1-2db), but for 1/2 price, I am fine with the noise. With the larger Dual Fuel 3400 vs the Honda 3000, the Honda was also a little quieter and couple pounds lighter. Again, the cost savings outweighs the small difference in noise for me. I think you could go with any of these including Yamaha, and be fine.
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We have the two companion models of the Honda 2000 series and they are converted to propane only.

When we installed the five hundred watt solar system on the roof of the 23D, we put in the hybrid Magnum MS-3012 inverter/converter. It will draw the necessary additional power from the 300 amp-hour lithium battery to allow one Honda 2000 to start and run the 13,500 BTU air conditioner. We can also run the minimal power draw LED lights and the freon based refrigerator only draws 69 watts, so we can limp along if needed.

So the 2000 watt Honda units are in the 45 pound class to lift which is important as I get older.

We can connect to the trailer propane front outlet with one unit or sometimes bring the spare 30 pound propane bottle in the truck when we take the two units for the big trailer.
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Note that a 3db change in the noise level reflects twice the noise level
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I see a strong trend towards at least some solar and enough battery storage capacity to power Airstreams, combined with management of the available power. Heating appliances are a challenge, we don't use them on solar. That's the direction were are headed, and have had success with even a small solar system. It will get larger with a portable panel and we just installed the batteries.

This is probably doable for most Airstreamers with the exception of air conditioning, that requires a generator, an RV park, or traveling/camping in cooler weather.
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:37 PM   #28
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There's a Champion model out now with a full 50AMP service using the normal RV connector. All the reviews on Walmart.com say it's great but loud. I would expect any of them will be loud except the Honda's. I think it runs about $1000.
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