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12-21-2015, 07:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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Flooded battery recommendations
I am looking for recommendations for 12 volt flooded deep cycle batteries. Thanks
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12-21-2015, 07:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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I buy either Interstate or Walmart. Awful easy to slip into the Walmart parking lot and exchange batteries when on the road. Both seem to work fairly well. You do have to be sure to get the deeo cycle.
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12-21-2015, 07:39 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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If you like to replace batteries often, go cheap. If you want a quality battery that's well made…….Trojan.
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Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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12-21-2015, 07:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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I have had good service with two Costco 6 volt golf cart batteries in series, but your rigs may or may not accommodate them. Sam's club golf cart batteries are about the same in my opinion.
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12-21-2015, 07:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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I love Trojan T-105 golf cart batteries but the price in my area has gone so high (about $160 each) that the $85 Costco's seem to be a better deal overall. They may not last quite as long, but they are slightly more than half the price. My oldest Costco's are only 5 seasons old now, and are still very strong. My Trojans gave me 10 years of service in the same rig. So, ask again in 5 years!
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12-21-2015, 09:50 PM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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My Costco Interstates were garbage and didn't even last us 7 months on the road. I'd avoid them.
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12-22-2015, 05:52 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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“If your happy with what you're using......it's adequate.
If others are unhappy with what you're using......it's not.”
RLC
I've had a 6v Deka battery,(cheep), in our 53 Victoria for years....relevance, none whatsoever.
Bob
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12-22-2015, 07:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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Bold Adventure/ Thanks for the lithium update. This trailer will be mostly used in areas with full hookups. Occasionally for a boondocking weekend. Rarely for a more extended period. The Excella has 2 series 27 enclosed battery cases. For now I think I am going with just replacing the 2 series 27 batteries with flooded batteries.
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12-22-2015, 08:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1986 31' Sovereign
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,137
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Buy cheap from a national chain -- Autozone, Wally, O'Reilly. If one fails on the road, you want a replacement nearby. If you were going to boondocks a lot, well that would be a different story.
Mike
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12-22-2015, 08:10 AM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,476
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I've switched to Rolls batteries. Looks like I'll be stuck with them for the next 20 years or so.....
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12-22-2015, 08:28 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AtomicNo13
I've switched to Rolls batteries. Looks like I'll be stuck with them for the next 20 years or so.....
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About how much for a pair of series 27?
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12-22-2015, 09:00 AM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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Just make sure you are getting Marine/RV deep cycle flooded group 27's.
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12-23-2015, 08:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
2008 F350, 6.4L diesel
, Oak Harbor, WA
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 605
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You need to have a good charger. Rule of thumb, if the charger has temperature compensation (which means a probe that measure the battery temperature) you might have a good charger to keep your batteries in top condition.
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12-23-2015, 11:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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I am not looking for charger or converter recommendations. just batteries, thanks
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12-23-2015, 11:53 PM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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Trojan or Full River.
Interstates are crap.
Personal recommendation: Trojan 31XHS
I know you have a different model AS but here is a pic anyhow
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12-24-2015, 12:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Hi, after the original Interstates, I have bought all of my batteries from Costco. No need for expensive batteries for an occasional one, two, or three days without hook-ups.
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01-02-2016, 11:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 28' International
Ofallon
, Missouri
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 661
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There is a ton of expert advice on the web. Below are some links I've been studying as I plan an upgrade to my oem Interstate type 24s to allow some short term dry camping.
Get a true deep cycle not a hybrid deep cycle / starting battery. Deep cycles are spec'd in Ah not cold cranking amps. I believe Interstate is a hybrid. True deep cycle batteries have thicker plates than a car type starting battery and thus have better life since a deep cycle is made to be repeatedly discharged and recharged.
Most respected brands seem to be Trojan and Lifeline. I've also noticed US Battery has some good choices. Flooded is cheaper but can only be discharged to about 50% without sacrificing life. AGM can be discharged to about 80% without killing the life but costs much more, about 2x.
Deep Cycle Battery Information and FAQ
Deep Cycle Batteries Guide : Energy Storage - Energy Matters
BatteryStuff Knowledge Base | Tutorials
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01-03-2016, 07:12 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mpsgolf
There is a ton of expert advice on the web. Below are some links I've been studying as I plan an upgrade to my oem Interstate type 24s to allow some short term dry camping.
Get a true deep cycle not a hybrid deep cycle / starting battery. Deep cycles are spec'd in Ah not cold cranking amps. I believe Interstate is a hybrid. True deep cycle batteries have thicker plates than a car type starting battery and thus have better life since a deep cycle is made to be repeatedly discharged and recharged.
Most respected brands seem to be Trojan and Lifeline. I've also noticed US Battery has some good choices. Flooded is cheaper but can only be discharged to about 50% without sacrificing life. AGM can be discharged to about 80% without killing the life but costs much more, about 2x.
Deep Cycle Battery Information and FAQ
Deep Cycle Batteries Guide : Energy Storage - Energy Matters
BatteryStuff Knowledge Base | Tutorials
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Don't know if the links you provided have this information, but if you discharge a Lifeline AGM repeatedly to 80% you will kill it in short order. They, along with flooded cells, should be kept to the 50% discharge regimen for maximum life. If you're looking for repeated draw capacity to 80% you need to be in the lithium arena.
If you look at the Lifeline tech documents, you will find a graph of cell life (# of charge cycles) vs. depth of discharge. The sweet spot is at 50% DoD however, the less you draw your batteries, the higher number of charge cycles (and longer life) you get.
The MOST important thing regarding lead based battery systems is to fully re-charge them to 100% after use to prevent sulfation, which is the leading cause of premature battery failure.
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Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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01-03-2016, 10:40 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 28' International
Ofallon
, Missouri
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 661
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
Don't know if the links you provided have this information, but if you discharge a Lifeline AGM repeatedly to 80% you will kill it in short order. They, along with flooded cells, should be kept to the 50% discharge regimen for maximum life. If you're looking for repeated draw capacity to 80% you need to be in the lithium arena.
If you look at the Lifeline tech documents, you will find a graph of cell life (# of charge cycles) vs. depth of discharge. The sweet spot is at 50% DoD however, the less you draw your batteries, the higher number of charge cycles (and longer life) you get.
The MOST important thing regarding lead based battery systems is to fully re-charge them to 100% after use to prevent sulfation, which is the leading cause of premature battery failure.
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Thanks for clarifying my comments. As you note, DoD vs Life is a curve with 80% being the worst case (shortest life).
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01-03-2016, 04:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
Pleasanton
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 745
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After poking around for some time I couldn't find any intrinsic reason why DD flooded batteries should exhibit shorter cycle lifetimes than AGM batteries. Both can happily be discharged to 80% and recover, albeit with some minor degradation.
This was an eye opener to me - that I can safely discharge my flooded lead-acid batteries to 80% every once in a while to stay comfortable without worry. Just last week I was boondocking my my wife and I cranked down the temperature to 50 deg F inside the trailer at night to try and limit my furnace usage. Next time I'll keep warmer and not stress so much.
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