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12-25-2011, 02:21 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Fantastic Fans: Which Model to Buy??!!
Howdy Gang,
Been a while since I've posted. I'm now asking for wisdom....
I want to replace all three fans in my 34 footer (two actually...one died, the lid cracked, and an aluminum plate is riveted to the frame of the one over the bathroom...)
I want to buy a Fantastic Fan. I am not sure which model I want.
I like the model 4000. It has the airflow, 3-speeds, and reversing features that I want. It is a basic but decent fan.
The 5000 seems to be the same fan but with a thermostat. On the one hand, this looks like junk to break to me. But on the other, I could see it as a good thing; where I set the thermostat to say 67 degrees or so and we go to sleep and forget about it. Whereas with the 4000, we might go to sleep and it's 80 degrees and wake up at 4:00am and it's 50 degrees inside the coach.
The model 6600 will cook my dinner for me, but is it just junk to break or is it worth the extra dineros to get it?
What do you guys think? Is the rock bottom simple one the way to go? Should I splurge for the one that cooks my dinner for me? Is the one in the middle the way to go? How reliable are the thermostats in them?
Right now, I think the 6600 is cool but probably a bit much. I think the 4000 would get the job done just fine. But I think the 5000 might be a smidge better if the thermostat doesn't break after a year or so just so I don't wake up icey cold in the middle of the night.
What you all think?
Thanks!
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12-25-2011, 02:25 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
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The rain sensor is a good feature, and it works. jim
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12-25-2011, 02:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Must have IMHO
Rain sensor - they work
Reversing - wonderful feature but NEVER have a fan close to the vent stack for the toilet running on "in" mode when you flush!
Temp control - mine worked fine for 4 years - Fantastic replaced for free when it went wonky!
Remote control - ? Lets see, the roof of an airstream is how high? If you're a little person or have arthritis it might make sense, but I'd lose the wretched remote.
Paula
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12-25-2011, 02:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 31' Classic
Nellysford
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Absolutely agree with zig and Paula about the Rain Sensing unit. We left both of ours open and running in Palo Duro Canyon on a sunny day. A quick Texas rain came over the canyon and soaked the place. We came home to find her safe and dry inside, with the fans closed down and shut off. Reversing is important when you want the flow-thru effect. We put the bedroom on IN and the front one on OUT. It airs out the whole 30 feet in next to no time, and keeps up a nice flow to the extent we rarely use the AC. Do it once, right, and you'll be happy you didn't "settle" for something less.
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2011 31' Classic Ltd. - The Silver Otter III
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12-25-2011, 05:00 PM
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Retired.
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You can upgrde any Fantstic vent, so if you gt a 4000 or 5000 and decide you want the rain sensor and lift motor you can buy thos items and install the parts to make the higher-dollar vent.
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12-25-2011, 05:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2023 30' Globetrotter
Pleasanton
, California
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I'll second, third, fourth...whatever the count its right now for the rain sensors. The remote is unnecessary in an Airstream I think. It's mostly for 5th wheels where you'd need a ladder inside to get to the controls. I suppose it might be cool to be laying in bed or not having to leave the couch to change the fan speed or the temperature setting.
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12-25-2011, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WineStream
I'll second, third, fourth...whatever the count its right now for the rain sensors. The remote is unnecessary in an Airstream I think. It's mostly for 5th wheels where you'd need a ladder inside to get to the controls. I suppose it might be cool to be laying in bed or not having to leave the couch to change the fan speed or the temperature setting.
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The remote is good if the fan is on the other end of the trailer. Say if you have a rear bed model and the fan is up front and it's the middle of the night. If the fan comes with the remote, fine, but I wouldn' speciallybuy it.
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12-25-2011, 06:28 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
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We went for 2 last year and got the rain sensor. Wasn't sure it they were working until one day I was looking at it when it began to rain. Sure enough, they closed as advertised. Never looked back. Will replace the 3rd. one someday too. Don't bother with the remote controls. Just something else to have to look for.
Go for it. You'll like it.
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TAC - NJ 18
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12-25-2011, 07:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
You can upgrde any Fantstic vent, so if you gt a 4000 or 5000 and decide you want the rain sensor and lift motor you can buy thos items and install the parts to make the higher-dollar vent.
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Where might one find the upgrades? I looked at Fantastic vent's website but didn't find anything about individual upgrade parts. Thanks!
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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12-25-2011, 07:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Amen to all said above. If something goes wrong, Fantastic Vent will replace it without an argument...possibly the best customer service on the planet. We love ours...rain sensor, thermostat control, fan in and out modes...the remote is not so important.
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12-25-2011, 08:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
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Don't intend to hijack this thread, but do want to put in a quick plug for MaxxFan.
I have both. They both have their points. There are multiple threads if you do a search.
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12-25-2011, 09:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
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Hi, I only have one Fantastic Vent; Whatever air it blows out/in, the same amount of air comes from the standard vent. [only one fan is really needed] Only thing mine doesn't have is the remote and I don't want/need one. Fantastic vents have no junk so I guess the basic one is the one for you.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
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12-26-2011, 05:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
1974 25' Tradewind
1974 27' Overlander
Indiana
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2003
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When you install a new Fantastic Vent, do you loose the light? I'm assuming you do. What have you done to replace the light...or just go without? Thanks!
Bob
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12-26-2011, 06:30 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Texas Airstream Harbor
, Zavalla, in the Deep East Texas Piney Woods on Lake Sam Rayburn
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadrunner
When you install a new Fantastic Vent, do you loose the light? I'm assuming you do. What have you done to replace the light...or just go without? Thanks!
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Correct on loosing the light, but....
Just add a fluorescent or an LED fixture forward or aft (or both) when you switch out to the Fantastic. The wiring is already there, easy access when you have the old fan/light out, and much better light and color quality with the newer lighting.
On the matter of model/accessories on the Fantastic - I have a thermo/rain sensor on one of the FF's on the MoHo - never ever used the temp sensor. On both of the FF's on the trailer I installed a Maxx Air II Cover:
The covers are easily removable by pulling 4 pins, add an extra "bug" barrier, don't reduce the air flow by much, and allow me to leave a top vent open AND turn off all of the batteries when the AS is parked for a week or more.
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"Suck it up, spend the bucks, do it right the first time."
WBCCI # 1113
AirForums #1737
Trailer '78 31' Sovereign
Living Large at an Airstream Park on the Largest Lake Totally Contained in Texas
Texas Airstream Harbor, Inc.
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12-26-2011, 06:42 AM
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beckybillrae
Where might one find the upgrades? I looked at Fantastic vent's website but didn't find anything about individual upgrade parts. Thanks!
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Becky, yu can give tem a call. I know our parts department has an upgrade kit sitting on the shelf, but I can't tell yu more than that.
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12-26-2011, 07:50 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Thanks for the replies everyone. This kind of has me leaning toward splurging for the 6000 series models for the front and rear and a 4000 over the center bathroom.
Oh, and mine is so old that it didn't have lights built into the fans....they're just fans. So I won't be losing any lights.
See ya on the road!
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12-26-2011, 12:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 28' Ambassador
Morada
, California
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Here's where I bought ours - I replaced all three old style vents with the reversible, powered type...
Fan-Tastic Fan Vent
I believe Vintage has an exclusive of supplying the vents with an alum colored lid - it color match is very good! They also offer the interior bezel with a curved profile to match the older trailers...
I bought one with the thermostat, (no rain sensor) that ventilates as needed when the AS is in storage...
With all fans in the blowing 'in' mode, I can actually use soapy water on the exterior of the windows to find leaks! These things have some 'fan' power!
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12-26-2011, 01:34 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
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I'm not sure of the model that is installed in my Classic but it has a dialable temperature thermostat that sits on the closet wall. This makes the fan a variable speed fan dependent upon how close it is to set point. So I can set it when going to bed and the fan speed slows down as it approaches set point. Hitting set point it shuts off, and as the heat of the day builds, the fan ramps up speed till hitting maximum velocity, depending upon the difference in the interior temps and the thermostat setting.
Ditto to others comments on the rain sensors. This is one of those products where performance is not an afterthought. These folks make good products. Never have had a problem with one of their fans.
Jack
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12-26-2011, 01:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 24' Tradewind
Oxford,
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2009
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The rain sensor is a MUST. Leave the vent open in the summer while you are out and along comes a summer thunder shower, you will be so glad you had the sensor-trust me. The thermostat is also well worth the money. If you order from Vintage Trailer supply they offer the cover in a gray that almost matches the older Heir Vents. Also they have a curved trim piece for inside that matches the curve of the top of the trailer.
Lots of good info on installation tips here on the forum as well, might check them out before you install it.
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12-26-2011, 02:08 PM
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Colonial Airstream NJ
Airstream Dealer
1961 16' Bambi
1997 19' "B" Van Airstream 190
Millstone Township
, New Jersey
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How to Operate the Fan-Tastic Fan 6000 Series OEM
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