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Old 12-14-2005, 06:43 PM   #15
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ok mod hat off lineman hat on.

ward, junk the stuff you have and start from scratch.

go get a 25 foot 30 amp rv extension cord and cut off the female end. that will be your new power cord.

next, go to the home despot and get a 60 amp 4 position sub panel with one 30 amp breaker one twenty and two 15's. the 15's should be gfi units.

ask the pimple faced kid with the cell phone perpetually stuck to his ear to show you where the strain reliefs are for the size and number of romex wires you have. don't forget to get a big one for the new power cord too!

report back and i/we can tell you how to properly install it.

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Let's not lose sight of the fact that any 15 amp extension cord will not have the wire gauge necessary to supply 30 amps at constant voltage to your Airstream. It does not matter what kind of circuit the cord is connected to - It will not treat you well unless it is 10 gauge maximum wire.

You will find this out in short order if the air conditioner is run on a less than suiitable circuit. If you are lucky, your adapter will melt before your compressor cooks.

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Old 12-14-2005, 06:46 PM   #17
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... ask the pimple faced kid with the cell phone perpetually stuck to his ear ...
John,

When were you in Huntsville? Please look me up on your next visit.

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amen tom

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Old 12-14-2005, 06:47 PM   #19
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Your garage outlet is probably on a 20 amp breaker.
The your power cord should be a 30 amp male plug compatable with the campground plug in. You probably have a 30 amp to 15 amp adaptor at the end of your plug so you can plug into a household type outlet.
I agree the box in your picture should be replaced or a neutral bus installed.

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Old 12-14-2005, 06:49 PM   #20
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ok mod hat off lineman hat on.

ward, junk the stuff you have and start from scratch.

go get a 25 foot 30 amp rv extension cord and cut off the female end. that will be your new power cord.

next, go to the home despot and get a 60 amp 4 position sub panel with one 30 amp breaker one twenty and two 15's. the 15's should be gfi units.

ask the pimple faced kid with the cell phone perpetually stuck to his ear to show you where the strain reliefs are for the size and number of romex wires you have. don't for get to get a big one for the new power cord too!

report back and i/we can tell you how to properly install it.

john

I would like to second John's post.
Forget all of the noise and do it correctly or don't do it at all.
This part of the trailer should not be skimped on.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:06 PM   #21
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Thank you guys, I'm not bad at following directions.
Yes, the male plug on the trailer for shore power is just a 3 prong 15a.
The power cord run from it to the breaker box is gage 10/3 and its aluminum wire.
I guess my next question is why would you want a 25 foot cord? The run from the receptical to the breaker box is about 3 feet. Don't they come any shorter? Or am I missing something else, AGAIN?

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The 25 foot 30 amp line is the shore power to the trailer. You will also need to install a matching outlet on your house if you intend to plug in at home. I have one mounted just below my electrical panel on the house.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:29 PM   #23
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Thanks John and AZ.
The shopping list and the explaination are well received.

Obvously my existing installation, even though it works, was altered by the PO. The upgrade goes without question and add a few pigtails adapters, I'll have everything proper.

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I guess my next question is why would you want a 25 foot cord?
ed, you do want to go camping with the unit someday?

you will need a 10 gauge cord at least that long if you want to use a pedestal at a camp ground to plug in. they can be placed at random at most camp grounds i have stayed at.

25 feet is a minimum at best, you will use at least 3 feet of it just to get it wired into your new panel.

some airstream dealers sell a canadian spec cord that is even longer! 32 feet if i remember correctly.

get the stuff and we can go from there.....

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Hey John, thanks for the follow-up.
I checked Dryers RV for the various components and see what your talking about. I don't believe there's enough room to store 25' of that cord in my service bay, which is just too bad. Dryers didn't feature the male 30amp receptical, just the female on a mounting plate. Nor did I see a dbl male adapter to use. Please correct me, but it appears that the standard 30amp receptical mounted on a trailer is female. If you plug the extension cord male side into the campground outlet, how does it then connect to the female at the trailer? As you can see, I am not familar with campground set-ups nor the new style 30amp plug. I know how it needs to go together but don't see the set up for it. Can you advise?
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:38 PM   #26
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... I don't believe there's enough room to store 25' of that cord in my service bay, which is just too bad. Ed
Hi Ed:

I can easily store a 25 foot long 1" diameter shore power cord in the covered storage area between the rear bumper and the rear shell on my 1964 Globe Trotter. Your 1964 Trade Wind should have identical storage, which should not be a problem. The male shore power cord is hard wired at the opposite end into the new breaker box you are going to buy and install inside your trailer's rear service center area.
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That would be a welcome solution.
Take a look at my configuration. I just finished re-doing the bumper locker. The PIC below shows the electrical receptical patched over to the left of the service door. And the depth of my bumper locker is only about 6" deep before it runs into the black tank box. It is also NOT weather-proof due to the piano hinge I used to rebuild. Is your configuration the same? How does your cord get into the bumper locker?

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Ed,

The standard installation is the hardwired or permanent method described by Fred. However, you can put in a separable cord, with a recessed male power inlet, not a female as you mentioned. Then you can put the cord wherever you like.
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Please correct me, but it appears that the standard 30amp receptical mounted on a trailer is female. If you plug the extension cord male side into the campground outlet, how does it then connect to the female at the trailer? As you can see, I am not familar with campground set-ups nor the new style 30amp plug. I know how it needs to go together but don't see the set up for it. Can you advise?
Thanks,
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