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Old 08-06-2011, 05:37 PM   #267
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Do I dare plug it in?

I was able to get the breaker box installed and wired but gave out of steam for the 12V stuff so I'll have to do that tomorrow. I only got the converter wired and anchored and the two 30 amp fuse holders half-wired and anchored.

Does my breaker box look like it is ok to plug in the trailer? I have the shore power to the 30 amp breaker then a separate 20 amp breaker for the streetside outlets, another for the fridge and curbside outlets, another for the converter, and the last for the a/c.

I took the original ground wire that was on the other breaker box and bolted it to the side of the new box. The other end is attached to the frame of the trailer. Was I supposed to do that? Seems like I did it on my little trailer but I didn't go look to see.

I had to relocate the breaker box from where it was originally because I couldn't fit in the tiny space where it had been to re-do it. I ran new wiring from the breaker box to a junction box where it will join with the original a/c wiring when I get it identified. That will be the only original 120 VAC wiring that I will use. Everything else has been covered and/or eliminated.

I used #6 red and white wire to run from the converter to the 30 amp fuse holders. On the 12VDC wiring chart there is a white wire running from the input end of the fuse box to a funny looking symbol. Am I correct to assume that it is a #6 wire that is screwed to the frame somewhere as the ground? Should I tie it into the original ground wire that I bolted to the breaker box?

The battery will sit directly below the converter and fuses so there won't be but about 2' at the most of wire between the two. I will put the new fuse box where the old one was.

Will it be ok to use #10 wire to go to the battery terminals? I might have enough of the #6 and can use it if it would be better. I'm not sure any other wires could fit into the little fuse holder with the #6 wiring though.

If I get the ok to plug it in as is and you don't hear from me tomorrow, you'll know it didn't work. Maybe at least I will go to Airstream heaven...
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:50 PM   #268
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The breaker box looks ok - great job!

I'm puzzled by the extra white wire on the fuse holder coming off the converter though.

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Old 08-06-2011, 08:23 PM   #269
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I'm puzzled by the extra white wire on the fuse holder coming off the converter though.

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I was following the wiring chart from TG Twinkie. The extra white wire goes to a funny looking symbol that I think indicates the ground to the trailer. Does that make sense?
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:33 PM   #270
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You are correct: it is the ground/common to the frame/skin. On the drawing it is the yellow line that goes to three black horizontal lines each shorter than the one above. It is the electrical symbol for ground.

Will it be ok to use #10 wire to go to the battery terminals? I might have enough of the #6 and can use it if it would be better. I'm not sure any other wires could fit into the little fuse holder with the #6 wiring though.
Yes; as long as the fuse is not larger than 30 amp.

Looks good for powering up. I don't think you will be going to heaven quite yet.

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Old 08-07-2011, 10:57 AM   #271
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Oh Shoot!

While starting on the battery stuff, I realized that I don't know what white wire goes with what black wire.

I guess I'm supposed to know that, right?

So do I do the meter thing again? But now the converter isn't connected to anything - nor are the black wires - so any suggestions??? Will I get a reading if nothing is connected but I put the probes on the black and white wires individually?
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It really doesn't matter since all of the white wires are virtually connected to the same place. You will need to identify each of the black wires in order to fuse each circuit properly. You can just connect the blacks to individual terminals on the new fuse block and then install the correct size fuse.
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It really doesn't matter since all of the white wires are virtually connected to the same place. You will need to identify each of the black wires in order to fuse each circuit properly. You can just connect the blacks to individual terminals on the new fuse block and then install the correct size fuse.
WHEW!!! Glad to hear that since I thought I was screwed because I didn't know what white wire went with which black wire. I have identified all the black wires so that is not a problem.

However, in the diagram you made for me you have a white wire going from the 30a fuse holder to the TV. How do I do that if I don't know which white wire is for the TV?

I plugged in the trailer today and am still alive so I guess everything works. I was able to identify the A/C so that will work now too. I think I am pretty much through with the 120 VAC but need some more supplies to finish up the 12 VDC.
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Since you have a white wire connected to the frame/skin all you need to do is make sure you have the white wire in the UCord connected to the frame of the trailer. Just like you did on the Traveler.
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Houston, We have a problem...

I wired all the existing 12V wires into the fuse box, putting the #10 red wire from the other end of the 30 amp fuse holder to the + nut on the fuse box. I put the TV black wire on the nut as well (as in my little trailer). I was unable to solder the solid copper to the stranded wire so I covered the stranded with solder and put both in a wire nut. I did the same for all the white wires coming out of the trailer and put the white #10 from the 30 amp fuse holder on the negative nut. All other white wires have the little push in things and are connected to the - part of the fuse box.

I get absolutely nothing - no lights, no propane detector, no water pump.

I plugged in the shore power and still nothing (except for the 120VAC outlets).

I took out my handy-dandy meter thing and tried to get readings on the fuse box. Nothing. I tried it on the battery itself and got readings in the 13-14 range. Put the meter on the wires coming out of the converter and got readings in the 13-14 range. Put the meter on the wires coming out of the 30 amp fuse holders and got readings.

I then disconnected the red wire from the fuse holder, put the + probe on the end of it and the - on the trailer and got a reading. Put it all back together and touched the + probe on the + nut (with the red converter wire and the TV wire attached) and got nothing. Even tried it with the - probe on the side of the trailer.

Now what??? Could the problem be that it isn't grounded correctly? I connected the #10 white ground wire that comes out of the 30 amp fuse holder to the ground wire that is original to the trailer (I have the 120VAC ground wire connected to this as well). Should I have connected it to a screw in a rib instead?

aaaagggghhhhh!!!!
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HI Lindy,

I'm heading out the door. Can you post a picture of the fuse box all wired up? I'm a visual type of person...

On the plus side, you're still with us and able to report on your problem.

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Hi Lindy;
Does your iPod work where you have the trailer parked? If so, maybe I can walk you thru the check out. I could understand that you might not have power if only the converter was connected, especially if you have a short, the converter would just shut down. But if you have the battery connected you would at the very least blow a fuse.
I am assuming the red wire you are referring to is the one from the 30 amp fuse to the new fuse block.
I'll wait to hear from you and if your iPod works we should be able to figure it out. The iPod won't work inside the trailer and I can't remember if the shelter is metal, you would have to be in line if site of the house.
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Woo hoo!!!

I went out this morning and redid some of the connections and now everything works! What it was is that the red wire from the converter wasn't making good contact with the nut on the fuse box.

I haven't checked out my TV lights but will try to do that soon.

Guess that pretty much wraps up the electrical stuff - now on to installing a new black tank, refinishing all the wood, putting in PEX plumbing, probably installing a new fridge... etc, etc, etc.

I'll be back if the TV doesn't work.

Regardless, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU (once again!) for all your help. At least this time it didn't take 200+ posts. Maybe on the next trailer (yeah, right) I can do it on my own...
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I knew you could fix it.

Good Job! It won't be long and you will be helping others with their electrical problems.
I would recommend that you print out a copy of the electrical drawing and keep it in the trailer. And of course always carry spare fuses.
Do you have a fridge in the trailer now? Do you know if it works? Is it in good enough shape to where you might want to see if you can get it to work?
Have a good day.
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Good Job! It won't be long and you will be helping others with their electrical problems.
I would recommend that you print out a copy of the electrical drawing and keep it in the trailer. And of course always carry spare fuses.
Do you have a fridge in the trailer now? Do you know if it works? Is it in good enough shape to where you might want to see if you can get it to work?
Have a good day.
Yes.the original fridge is in the trailer. Since it is gas and electric I thought I would try plugging it in to it's new plug and see what happens. Maybe if it works on electric it will work on propane. It is in pretty good shape so I'd like to keep it if it is fixable . Besides, new grudges are expensive!

Good plan to keep a drawing of the wiring in the trailer. I have all my diagrams I've used in a notebook but that's not much help when camping. And I learned the "carry spare fuses" lesson the hard way on our trip to Texas in the spring. I now have extras in both trailers!

As for me giving advice on wiring, I think I'll leave that to the folks who know what they're doing! I WILL direct them to this thread though!
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