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Old 04-11-2017, 08:18 AM   #21
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I installed my Micro-Air Easy Start today. Though handy with woodworking and carpentry, I have not a clue when it comes to electronics like this, so if I can do it, you can too.



I'm prepping a lengthy and detailed overview of the installation, but until that's ready, I offer the following:



1) took me about an hour, using a screwdriver, wire stripper, wire cutters, an 8mm socket driver, a crimper, and a utility knife.



2) the results are as advertised, and I tested my AC using ECO mode on a Honda eu2000i (non a companion) and it fired right up without any trouble.



3) Matteo from MicroAir has posted detailed installation instructions which I hope to augment for the "non-elecrtimacal" among us, but the included photo here tells me pretty everything I needed to know, so I hope it's helpful to some folks.





(For future reference: I have a 2016 25FB International Signature Twin, with a single 15,000 BTU air conditioner.)


Thx, thiel. Every picture helps. I'm about a week out from my black box install
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:38 AM   #22
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Does anyone have a photo of the two things you have to bend to get the black box all the way in?
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Old 04-11-2017, 11:36 AM   #23
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You can see the blue connector right above the red thing in the photo (center of frame). There are two of these that you have to bend slightly to make the box fit.

This photo is "right side up" with the black thing in the lower left being the easy start box before getting pushed backward into place.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:55 PM   #24
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Theil, you've made this project look very easy. I've removed my AC cover before to clean the condenser fins which was easy as you stated, but did not step on the roof. I assume you were on the roof of your AS to do the install. Any tips on this part of the process?
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Old 04-11-2017, 06:42 PM   #25
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Theil, you've made this project look very easy. I've removed my AC cover before to clean the condenser fins which was easy as you stated, but did not step on the roof. I assume you were on the roof of your AS to do the install. Any tips on this part of the process?


Yup. I used a stepladder to get up high and then stepped across on to the roof. I watched Patrick Botticelli's video on how to walk on the roof but ultimately all it says is to step where there are rivets so that your weight is supported by the beams/ribs of the trailer.

I did most of the work sitting down on the roof next to the AC unit. I weigh about 220# and did not do any lasting damage to the roof.

IMPORTANT: Make sure your feet are dry. The roof is SUPER SLIPPERY if your feet are wet.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:49 PM   #26
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You can see the blue connector right above the red thing in the photo (center of frame). There are two of these that you have to bend slightly to make the box fit.

This photo is "right side up" with the black thing in the lower left being the easy start box before getting pushed backward into place.


Thx, thiel.
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Well in the end it was thiel's experience that got my credit card out. So I ordered two 364s but still not sure how to get on the roof. Never been up on the new trailer. Not yet.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:29 PM   #28
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The shroud removal is as easy as it gets. Four screws from the edges of the shroud, remove them and lift up. The shroud is a bit ungainly so be careful. I put a blanket over the skylight and then put the shroud down over it.

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Larry's got it. The AC shroud is BY FAR the easiest part... and the whole process is pretty easy. Mine had two philips screws on the front and two on the back. The shroud is light and lifts off easily.

Interesting note: one of my screws was screwed up, so I only undid three of the four screws and was still able to fold the cover back out of the way without any trouble.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:30 PM   #29
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It's not bad. I did the entire install in my bottom as well. Used a talk ladder to step over to roof as well.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:30 PM   #30
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Well in the end it was thiel's experience that got my credit card out. So I ordered two 364s but still not sure how to get on the roof. Never been up on the new trailer. Not yet.

Oh no, now I feel responsible.

On the bright side, let me know when you get them installed and I will drink a beer (one for each 364!) to celebrate a job well done!
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Anyone that has completed theirs what size wire for the L2 incoming do I need to buy to extend this wire and how long? Hope to open it up and do this later today. Thanks Dave
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Anyone that has completed theirs what size wire for the L2 incoming do I need to buy to extend this wire and how long? Hope to open it up and do this later today. Thanks Dave
Matteo from Micro-Air said it was 14 AWG but that he just used the leftover white wire from the EasyStart which is 10 AWG. I had some 14 AWG white wire ready to go but when I saw the L2 wire up close it looked bigger to me so I just used the leftover 10 AWG like Matteo. I tried to read what AWG the L2 wire really was but there was very little wire showing and the rest was covered up by sheathing so was not able to be certain.
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Did my install today on my 2008 dometic penguin 13.5k unit. Pictures below. Took longer than I thought it would - but likely because I am a detail and perfection oriented individual... I recommend ordering the $10 install kit - that was very handy to have! I was lucky In that I had some rubber grommets in my toolbox to insulate the 1/2 inch hole I drilled into the electrical box to run the easystart wires...

I don't have 20amp service in my garage at home so I used my honda eu2000i for the first 5 "learning" starts.

Works beautifully.
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Wulfraat - Thanks for sharing! It's nice to see the real estate layout before I open up Pandora's box. Looks straight forward...just finding a place to put the unit and then making the appropriate connections.

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Nice work Wulfraat!! Like the top down pics. How old is your unit?
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My trailer is a 2008, so it has a slightly older "low profile" penguin AC with the first generation CCC control.

I was glad that the easystart had long wires as I had to run them from the rear corner to the opposing front corner...

Also installed some Bluetooth LP 30lb tank level monitors yesterday as well. I can finally stop guessing how much LP I've got after all these years
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Cool Wulf!! I thought it looked different, that's why I asked. Nice clean install.

Which LP monitor did you go with? I'm thinking about the doing that as well.
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Thanks for the pics and intel. Since you mentioned the $10 install kit was handy (glad I ordered it), what did you need the rubber grommets for? The kit didn't include something to line your hole with? Is the hole you had to drill done because yours is an older unit?

Waiting on mine to arrive this week and want to have everything on hand to do the install...2014 FC.

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I picked up the mopeka Bluetooth tank monitors. They mount to the bottom of the tank with a magnet and fire sonar signals upwards to determine how much propane / liquid is in the tank. The jury is still out regarding accuracy (it's showing one of my tanks is empty but there is still some propane in it. Might be because the bottom of the tank is rusty / dirty - I've never cleaned it just slapped on the sensor . I have 2 new tanks on order as mine are approaching their 10 year anniversary so once I have those new tanks installed we'll see.

Regarding the rubber grommet - the kit comes with a 3/4 inch (or maybe it's a 1 inch) plastic grommet in the event you need to drill a hole to pass wires though a panel. I didn't have a drill bit big enough so I used a 1/2 inch bit and then used a rubber grommet I had in my toolbox to insulate the opening.

You can see it here in this picture top center just to the left of the grounding bolt....
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I would suggest to others that are going to install this to order the $10.00 accessory package. I ran all over town looking for an end cap. Home Depot, Lowes, etc. Most places had never heard of one. I ended up using a twist cap and then taped it well as I could not find another alternative to hooking the three wires together.

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