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Old 07-04-2018, 08:42 PM   #221
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Just installed the easy start in a 15K Dometic Penguin 2. Install went smoothly following the instructions. Did the initial startups on a 20A home circuit and then tried the Champion 3100 generator running on propane (2520 watt continuous) and it ran well. The reduced noise on startup is very nice. So far looks like a great product.
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:39 PM   #222
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Bought mine at the WBCCI International Rally and had it installed in my Dometic 15,000. Did my 5 starts on rally shore power. Tested it with my Honda 2000 running on propane with Eco mode ON. AC started, Honda spooled up, everything worked great!


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Old 07-08-2018, 06:36 AM   #223
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Decided to try the easystart with the Honda 2000 yesterday. It was 80+ in the AS, and only 85 outside. It ran great. In no time it was 68 inside. Water dripping down in front of my street side front tire. Honda didn’t seem to be working that hard. I’ll have to try it again when it’s in the upper 90s. Really happy with the gradual start up of the compressor. The loud clunk is gone.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:51 PM   #224
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Easy start discount?

I've been reading about and talking with fellow AS owners about EasyStart. Decided to pop for one in the next week or so.

Somewhere I think I heard that MicroAir gives a discount to AirForum members. Is that true? If so, is there some sort of coupon I need to get? Thanks for your help
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Old 07-14-2018, 01:17 AM   #225
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:05 PM   #226
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I plan to install a easy start on my 2017 16’ Sport but noticed there is not much room to sit, kneel? Any suggestions? I am 6’1” and about 250 and would prefer not to accidently add another skylight...
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:08 PM   #227
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I plan to install a easy start on my 2017 16’ Sport but noticed there is not much room to sit, kneel? Any suggestions? I am 6’1” and about 250 and would prefer not to accidently add another skylight...
6’2” 225 lbs and I put one on our 2014 25 ft FC and never got off the ladder leaning against both sides of the trailer.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:48 AM   #228
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I was able to do it from a ladder. I padded the top with the gray foam water pipe insulation that you can get at Home Depot.
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:29 PM   #229
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I was able to do it from a ladder. I padded the top with the gray foam water pipe insulation that you can get at Home Depot.
I saw a bunch of this in my garage as I headed out this AM and thought the same thing. Worked great. Now in starting 5 times mod..

Thank you everyone for all your tips and details for the install.
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Old 07-24-2018, 06:04 PM   #230
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So how can I tell if the Easy Start is functioning or "learned" correctly?

I did not run the a/c off of my generator prior to the install. After several starts on regular house current I ran it off of my generator. The generator showed it was drawing between 10.2 & 10.3 amps. Never saw it fluctuate from those numbers.
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:35 AM   #231
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So how can I tell if the Easy Start is functioning or "learned" correctly?

I did not run the a/c off of my generator prior to the install. After several starts on regular house current I ran it off of my generator. The generator showed it was drawing between 10.2 & 10.3 amps. Never saw it fluctuate from those numbers.
Hello Heckler. If your A/C was able to start on your generator, then the EasyStart was learned correctly. The only other way to prove it would be to attach a clamp-on ammeter with max-capture capability, and measure the starting amp surge. That's shouldn't be necessary in your case since everything seems to be working fine.
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Old 07-25-2018, 10:38 AM   #232
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Hello Heckler. If your A/C was able to start on your generator, then the EasyStart was learned correctly. The only other way to prove it would be to attach a clamp-on ammeter with max-capture capability, and measure the starting amp surge. That's shouldn't be necessary in your case since everything seems to be working fine.
Thank you. I just was not sure since the amp draw at a/c start up and during operation never seemed to vary. I was thinking that the compressor start up would be delayed for a minute or two and I would see the amp draw vary.
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:22 AM   #233
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Converter off?

My question is about power management. If I have to turn off my converter when running my a/c with an easy start using a Honda 2000, then how do I make sure that I don't damage my airstream batteries by discharging them too much?
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My question is about power management. If I have to turn off my converter when running my a/c with an easy start using a Honda 2000, then how do I make sure that I don't damage my airstream batteries by discharging them too much?
Hello again Hiho Silver. You do not always have to turn off your converter in order to run your A/C with EasyStart on your Honda EU2000i. Only if your batteries are already discharged will your converter draw too much power in addition to the A/C, that would exceed the Honda's 2000W steady-state rating. Normally, when the batteries are charged, the converter is in a "float" or trickle charge mode that results in only 100-200W of power being drawn from the AC source (i.e. generator). That's fine in addition to the A/C itself, and the generator can handle it. Beyond this, if you want to turn on a lot of 12VDC loads like halogen lighting with all of the Fantastic Fans, this may also cause the converter to kick into "bulk" or rapid charge mode since it will try to save the batteries from being discharged at all by providing the required DC current load instead. In such a situation you can breaker off your converter to be able to run the A/C simultaneously on generator, without risking overly discharging your batteries.
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:53 PM   #235
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I envy you guys. Mine still won't run on one Honda at my altitude of 5K feet even after re-jetting the carb. I did accomplish one goal and that was to be able to run my AC off of a 20 amp house circuit while cleaning and working on the trailer.
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I envy you guys. Mine still won't run on one Honda at my altitude of 5K feet even after re-jetting the carb. I did accomplish one goal and that was to be able to run my AC off of a 20 amp house circuit while cleaning and working on the trailer.

Ditto that. Mine won't kick in on propane or gas. Anyone want a Honda 2000I with propane conversion?
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Old 08-03-2018, 04:54 PM   #237
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Ditto that. Mine won't kick in on propane or gas. Anyone want a Honda 2000I with propane conversion?

Strange - After the installation crew at Salem international did the learning starts I tested mine with my 2000 running on propane in ECO mode. It worked fine. I'm pretty sure I have a 15,000 BTU unit, although it is an older model (2001-2002). Are you sure you don't have fridge and/or water heater running on AC?


You may need to reset it (have to go up on the roof) and then re-do the learning starts on a good 30A circuit. If you have already tried that, I don't have a clue....

Edit:
I just looked at the Airstream standard equipment list for my trailer and it says I have a 13,500 BTU unit. I have (not at the house, at the trailer so I can't check it) the order sheet and I don't recall that it mentions an optional 15,000 BTU unit.


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Well, mine worked one time. A few weeks ago, it ran great. Let it run for 30 min. Cycling on and off. Then I tried it again today with the outside temp at 94 instead of 84. The Honda 2000 would just sputter and die when the compressor started to ramp up. Exactly what it was doing before I paid a small engine shop to fix the carburetor. It could be bad gas again, or maybe that my AC is 9 or 10 yrs old, but it can’t get the compressor to run..
I can see I’m going to end up getting a companion Honda 2000.
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Old 08-04-2018, 12:40 PM   #239
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Update. Cleaned out all the old gas (3 wks old gasohol). Added some somewhat newer gasohol, also added Briggs and Stratton gas preservative. Tried AC this morning with outside temp at 80. Ran great. No issues. Running again now with outside temp at 88. Inside was 80 and cooling very fast. The Honda 2000 increased rpm for a few seconds when the AC compressor ramped up, but immediately settled back down to a pretty low rpm. Not the easy eco mode idle, but not far above that. Running great. Not sure what yesterday’s issues were. Either too hot at 95, or the gas had already started to deteriorate.
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I envy you guys. Mine still won't run on one Honda at my altitude of 5K feet even after re-jetting the carb. I did accomplish one goal and that was to be able to run my AC off of a 20 amp house circuit while cleaning and working on the trailer.

Same here. On propane with appropriate orifice installed. I was able to run the AC at night at the salt flats last week (4200 ft elevation) but the compressor cycled in and out quite a bit until the trailer was cooler. The next day at high temps, would not...compressor would start, then stall in a minute or two and wouldn't restart like it did the night before in cooler temps.


Question for Matteo if you see this post. On my 23FB, the AC worked fine on my 15 amp garage circuit at home. With my 23D that I installed the Easy Start on, it is tripping the breaker with everything else off in the trailer. I am wondering if I have a problem with my AC or my Easy Start. I need to get a decent clamp ammeter. With a 13.5 AC, what are the amperage draws for the compressor, both without and with the Easy Start? I believe that might be continent on exterior temperature? Also, I'm no engineer and am confused about something. Isn't the initial start of the compressor the 'big' one? Once it's running, why would it stall a few minutes later? Doesn't it draw less amps after initial startup?

I am wondering if I screwed up my learning starts by not having the fridge off, and/or converter/charger, etc. Is it possible to 'reset' the Easy Start and redo the learning steps?
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