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Old 02-17-2017, 09:50 AM   #29
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I climbed onto the roof of my 2013 trailer and removed the cover from the Dometic. The label says MFG# 651816C851C0 and Product number 991762761. According to Airstream it is a 15,000 BTU heat pump. This different from lsbrodsky MFG# (6815xxx) though maybe it was an accidental transpose of two characters. Still the photographs posted compared exactly to what I saw on my AC. Very little room inside the metal electrical enclosure.

The fan area does have some room however I wonder about impacts to air flow and temperature impacts to the Micro-Air components. Whereas the existing metal electrical enclosure is outside the operating part of the machine, the other areas probably get real hot, cold, or humid depending upon in AC mode or Heat Pump mode. Further environmental conditions probably make the fan area damp at times. So if I decide to go this route I'll probably just follow lsbrodsky's example and cram it into the existing tight fitting electrical enclosure.
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:08 AM   #30
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Yes, I got the numbers wrong, sorry. I think the fan takes return air from inside the trailer, pushes it over the coils, and then pushes it through the vents in the trailer. I cannot see any condition in the fan enclosure that would be worse than in the electrical enclosure, especially since Micro-Air sells the 364 in a watertight box. You can attempt what I did, but if I had to do it all over again, I would buy and install the 364, not the 366. You will never fit the 364 in the electrical enclosure.

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Old 02-19-2017, 07:14 AM   #31
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My unit is a Briskair II and there is plenty of room in the unit.


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Old 02-20-2017, 01:01 PM   #32
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Well, I got my 366 installed today in a Penguin low profile 13.5K. Tight fir but works well, but I agree with Larry (above). The electrical box is just too small to easily install a 366. Spend the extra money and get the gray sealed unit, drill a hole in the case, install a grommet and mount the MicroAir outside the electrical box in the fan area..
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:28 AM   #33
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EasyStart Installation Report on Airstream & Dometic Penguin II 13.5k & 15k

Hi again everyone. Although most of the discussion here has been about the EasyStart 366, there was some question about whether or not the EasyStart 364 could be made to fit into the Dometic Penguin II units. In another thread topic, I just posted a detailed report about an installation we did on a 2015 27ft Airstream Eddie Bauer with dual Dometic Penguin II A/Cs. The post is available at this link. Please feel free to ask any questions in that thread.
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:54 AM   #34
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:59 AM   #35
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It works fine for me.
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Old 02-24-2017, 07:21 AM   #36
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It worked on a PC for me, not in my mobile devices iPhone/iPad
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So I decided to get out my EU2000i(s) this morning and test out the A/C with both. Each started and ran the 13.5K Penguin just as if it were on shore power with the eco mode off.

Contrary to a posting on one of these threads, I would NOT run the A/C in eco mode. The fan start does not raise the RPMs to a level for compressor start that I am comfortable with. When the compressor kicks in the fan speed drops dramatically and the compressor starts slow....until the EU 2000i catches up. I believe that is a long term durability issue for the compressor. For the little bit of fuel savings, it isn't worth damaging the compressor.

That's my personal opinion and two cents.....
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Nice to know, thanks. I won't need that capability until June, maybe. But I do appreciate the quieter start of the compressor on shore power.
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Nice to know, thanks. I won't need that capability until June, maybe. But I do appreciate the quieter start of the compressor on shore power.
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No kidding, I have to stand right under the A/C and listed really hard for the compressor start. It is really a quiet start.
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We are also very happy with EasyStart.

We have 15,000 and 13,500 low profile Penguin 2s on our Airstream, and have EasyStart installed on both of them.

Over the past two weeks, we've stayed at campsites with no shore power (Flamingo at ENP) and 30 amp power (Fort Clinch SP, FL), and did some casual testing of the EasyStart units.

1. We were able to start and run either the 15 or 13.5 units with one propane Honda EU2000.

2. We are able to run both AC units simultaneously by running our 2 propane EU2000s in parallel. We started the 13.5 first, then the 15.

3. Most interesting to me, we were able to run both AC units simultaneously from a 30 amp pedestal. Again, we started the 13.5 unit first.

4. Both AC units started a little quieter when the compressor kicked in then normal.

More testing needed to confirm how much headroom we have in each case, but it in this limited use, we did not run into any problems.

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Old 03-23-2017, 10:43 AM   #41
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Update, failure and fix

On my trip last week, my EasyStart 366 failed after 3 days of heat pump operation, when trying to start. I got up on the roof this week, took things apart and saw that the start capacitor and the SC bleed resistor were toast.
I contacted Matteo and it was their considered analysis that one of the terminals, in my configuration, may have shorted to the case of the run cap.
They sent me a new board and start cap, and some insulated flag terminals for installation. I also decided that I would insulate every terminal that was not insulated, I installed a thin piece of adhesive-backed vinyl on the cover/mounting plate, and I installed a thin piece of Teflon between the run cap and the 366 board. It is still very tight in there and it is impossible to see what interferences might exist, but my precautions will preclude a short to the case of the run cap or to the cover. I will repeat from my initial post. Save yourself the trouble and install a 364, either as Matteo has, or in a location outside of the electrical box. Nevertheless, I am back in business and hope to be done with this project.
Finally, I never seen the high level of customer care provided by Micro-Air. Matteo offered to come to my campsite, come to my home, do whatever it would take to get me working. They sent me a new board, capacitor, and connectors at no charge. They thought hard about possible failure modes and their analysis is most likely accurate, which puts the real fault on my installation. They are buying a Penguin II and will, no doubt, noodle through alternative mounting options for the EasyStart.
Sometimes the guy at the front of the pack has to catch the spear.
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Thanks Larry! You are catching many spears in these projects, same on the solar! Appreciate it. My installs for both the lithium solar and the Micro-air have gone smoother because of your help and insights (lessons learned).

Thanks for leading the pack!

PS - when are you doing a lift kit, figure I'll wait to do mine until you do one
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