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Old 01-31-2017, 06:54 PM   #15
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If the outlet is one of the "speed wire" outlets without side wire connectors, these replacement covers that contain a USB power circuit may not work. But if it does have such side wire connectors they might do the trick. Watch out for shorting to the aluminum skin of the Airstream if you do use them.

https://www.snappower.com/product/du...FQSUaQodhtkFkQ

Another thing to consider is the quality of any USB power circuit you plug your expensive electronics into. You cannot see the poor voltage regulation without an oscilloscope but it does have a negative effect on the reliability and longevity of your devices.

Plus the cheap ones can put out a lot of radio frequency noise that can be seen as interference on your TV.

For those reasons I just have a nice 5 outlet power strip (with surge protection) that I place out on the counter and plug in the highest quality USB power cubes I can buy.
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:31 AM   #16
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Which outlets are you referring to? Some blank outlets are for code compliance.
Such as outlet in a cabinet for microwave or 110volt refrigerator plugin.Sometimes they can also
be found on inverter circuit.
There are two by the tv opposite the kitchen galley, one runs from inverter and the other is straight city power; similar set by the bedroom TV (as I remember, I am in Europe now and far from my RV).
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:39 AM   #17
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It appears from the discussion tha there is no easy solution for improvement on the power receptacles original from factory. I still don't understand why, if they make only one live, they even include a dummy one at all. Nowadays we all need USB power sources and adding them appears to be only possible by bulky power strips and/or 'cubes'. That creates 'noise' to an otherwise streamlined, clean look of our trailers. Nothing dramatic yet it should go into the wish list as options, upgrades or standard features for Airstream.
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Instead of banging your head against the wall until it hurts........why not simply use DC direct 12VDC or USB outlets as your solution. I use them regularly and they provide available USB power almost anywhere in the trailer by either running a new 12VDC 2-conductor cable or tapping into an existing one.

You will find available 12VDC pairs almost everywhere in an Airstream.
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You can get RV-type speedwire shallow outlets with two receptacles, and use them. As Lewster points out, they are somewhat difficult to install properly, however.

It is also possible to install a standard junction box if you are willing to have the junction box and outlet protrude from the wall somewhat. Boxing it with molding would help with the appearance.

I use 12v USB adapters and a 12v laptop charger for my electronics. I've had the best luck with the Scoche usb adapters although others have worked. Charge rate can be a problem particularly as the actual voltage of the 12v circuit drops somewhat. Best to check the USB output before depending on it. I use an app called "ampere" on my Android phone that does it.
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Dummy outlets turned functional

Thanks. I will explore those. BTW, by the TV in main cabin I have a marine fan, a security camera, of course the TV and provision for future needs, all needing power exceeding what is available at the wall. For my taste, having cables dangling or even bulky USB adaptors is not practical or aesthetically acceptable. I got the nicest (and most expensive) new trailer in part because of aesthetics after all.
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Thanks. I will explore those. BTW, by the TV in main cabin I have a marine fan, a security camera, of course the TV and provision for future needs, all needing power exceeding what is available at the wall. For my taste, having cables dangling or even bulky USB adaptors is not practical or aesthetically acceptable. I got the nicest (and most expensive) new trailer in part because of aesthetics after all.
Single receptacle outlets = Safety

My 27ft. 2016 Flying Cloud has AC 120V double outlets in several locations but only one 'port' (set of three holes to match the plug) is live, the other is dummy or closed. Any reason for this? I am planning on replacing the receptacles with dual normal inputs so I can plug two devices on each, plus 2 built in USB ports. Any ideas on this?

1. Microwave – code. Receptacles in lockers etc. can have only one device plugged in.
2. Refrigerator – safety. Most refers are on a GFI circuit now, but if they are not, we wanted to discourage owners from plugging in extension cords etc. that might cause electrocution in a wet environment. This is something Airstream started many years ago, and have continued to do.
3. Televisions- When operating off the inverter Airstream does not want the inverter overloaded so that outlet would only have one plug in the outlet. In addition to the overloading the circuit, plugging in too many appliances into inverter circuit can deplete your batteries quicker.
4. Safety Hazards-code. In some situations an outlet will only have a plugin for a specific device (TV) such as on a wall over a lounge area. A power cord is not supposed to hang down across a lounge for example or something being plugged in and sat on lounge that could become a fire hazard.

That is the why. Adding thev12 volt USB outlets are pretty easy and all New models have them.I have added them to my 2014
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BS! The TV outlets are not the inverter fed outlets, they are the shorepower AC outlets and I can think of no reason why those outlets were provided as a single outlet with no ability to use the second outlet for USB cubes, Roku or other such devices. Just another pain to fix.
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BS! The TV outlets are not the inverter fed outlets, they are the shorepower AC outlets and I can think of no reason why those outlets were provided as a single outlet with no ability to use the second outlet for USB cubes, Roku or other such devices. Just another pain to fix.
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Good morning,I have a 2014 25 fb. Next to my living room tv and the bedroom tv I have a inverter circuit (outlet)and a regular 110 volt outlet. Both inverter circuits (outlets) have a single plug in. The regular outlet by the living room tv is a single plug in.
Some models may vary due to floor plan but those are the guidelines Airstream was using when I retired from there.
I do understand that having enough plugins is always an issue. Just trying to share.
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All plugs live plus a couple of USB ports on each would be very nice. It is not about overcharging the circuit since most gadgets use very little amps, but their availability throughout will help the protruding adaptors, cables running across, etc. Not a big additional cost when building the trailers and a great benefit for the buyers.
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All plugs live plus a couple of USB ports on each would be very nice. It is not about overcharging the circuit since most gadgets use very little amps, but their availability throughout will help the protruding adaptors, cables running across, etc. Not a big additional cost when building the trailers and a great benefit for the buyers.
It's much easier to use quality DC-direct USB outlets than the ones that are imbedded into the 120VAC outlets. Source them from marine companies like Marinco or Blue Sea Systems.

I add these to almost every coach that I work on. They are flush mount and easy to wire. You only need to tap into an existing 12VDC circuit for operation.

http://shop.pkys.com/Blue-Sea-1016-D...r-BxoCn7Xw_wcB
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You do know that Airstream corrected all this in the 2017's.

I have USB double ports in several locations. 5 that I can think of. There are also standard 120v double wall plugs right next to them.

Also now the inverter plugs have been removed and power dirrectly through the standard plugs. No more switching from one plug to the next when going from shore power to inverter power.

All wall plugs have double plug-ins.
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I just use something like this at the credenza.

https://www.amazon.com/Bestten-Prote...utlet+with+usb

In addition, my old generation AS has a 12V power port in the bedroom and I just use one of these.

https://www.amazon.com/Usstore-Charg...+auto+port+usb

Not really a complicated issue to resolve, IMO.
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I just use something like this at the credenza.

https://www.amazon.com/Bestten-Prote...utlet+with+usb

In addition, my old generation AS has a 12V power port in the bedroom and I just use one of these.

https://www.amazon.com/Usstore-Charg...+auto+port+usb

Not really a complicated issue to resolve, IMO.
Thanks, just ordered 2 of the first one you list. It is a nice add-on, but still protruding from the wall and adding (a little) clutter. It will be nice if they 2 plugs plus 2 USB ports were already built in, like the ones they sell in Lowes, etc. I read in the previous posting that 2017's have them from factory. Mine is 2016 though.
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