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07-13-2016, 07:02 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1967 30' Sovereign
Chesapeake
, Virginia
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 24
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Can they go ALL Electric?
Would it be possible to go all electric if doing full Monty...battery bank/ upgraded power etc and not have propane for anything? Realistic or pipe dream nightmare. Planning on doing majority of work myself and just spitballing for the future.
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07-13-2016, 07:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,364
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It is possible. Question is whether you'd want to.
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07-13-2016, 07:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Your trailer, you are writing the checks so almost anything is possible.
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07-13-2016, 07:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Suggest making a complete list of every use for the electric, and some projected loads, with allowances for which will need to run at the same time. You may find that propane and gasoline (generator) energy are hard to replace with all-electric, especially during very hot or cold weather extremes.
Also -- are you talking about using shore-power sometimes, or mostly self-contained solar etc.?
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07-13-2016, 07:34 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,638
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I would say absolutely. What would be the biggest draw when not hooked to shore power? Probably water heater and fridge. If you're not doing a lot of boondocking, I'd think it'd be pretty easy. The battery pack would be heavy, but like the one used in a Prius or Volt or Tesla should power the fridge for a long time as you go down the road. Not sure how long it would last on the water heater. But, it's certainly doable.
Be a neat project. Post lots of pictures
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07-13-2016, 07:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimGolden
I would say absolutely. What would be the biggest draw when not hooked to shore power? Probably water heater and fridge. If you're not doing a lot of boondocking, I'd think it'd be pretty easy. The battery pack would be heavy, but like the one used in a Prius or Volt or Tesla should power the fridge for a long time as you go down the road. Not sure how long it would last on the water heater. But, it's certainly doable.
Be a neat project. Post lots of pictures
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What about air conditioning in the heat of summer, and the furnace fan and elecric heating element in the cold of winter. Huge draws!
Ever seen a trailer with all-electric heat in the fall and spring? Probably not . . . limited insulation in an AS . . .
Limited solar in cloudy weather . . .
Hmmmmmm . . .
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07-13-2016, 07:51 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1967 30' Sovereign
Chesapeake
, Virginia
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 24
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Thx
This is why I love these forums....lots of input. It was just an idea and as usual somebody always points out something I may have not thought about. Not die hard on any one idea at the moment.....just thinking. Gotta start gutting it though soon, know the subfloor needs some work and need to evaluate frame/ trailer.
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07-13-2016, 09:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 18' "Footer"
Idyllwild
, California
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 645
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1st question is how will you be using it?
All of the answers depend on how you answer the 1st question.
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07-13-2016, 09:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Anything that makes any real heat, like a furnace or a stove would be very challenging to run on battery power.
A good generator and/or being on shore power could make the project viable though.
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07-13-2016, 11:28 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 83spyder
Would it be possible to go all electric if doing full Monty...battery bank/ upgraded power etc and not have propane for anything? Realistic or pipe dream nightmare. Planning on doing majority of work myself and just spitballing for the future.
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Send a private message to 'beach bum' on the forums. He has gone all electric (with the exception of the furnace). I'm sure he would be willing to share his experiences.
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07-14-2016, 12:03 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 194
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The current Land Yacht has an induction cook top and a microwave oven instead of a propane stove. It does use propane for the hot water heater, furnace, and the refridgerator.
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07-14-2016, 11:28 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1998 34' Limited
Lawrenceville
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 220
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Cool idea, but my main concern would be a long-lasting power failure in cold weather. We are going to install a catalytic heater, which needs no 12v power source at all, for just such an occasion. (even though in 43 years of camping in rvs, we've never needed it.)
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07-14-2016, 12:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.7 Metre
1971 27' Overlander
1973 31' Sovereign
Griffin
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 166
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I've successfully renovated 7 airstreams to total electric. Installed a new converter inverter box. WFCO fuse and circuit box. Hot water heater that will work on 110. New a/c with heat strip. 10cf refrigerator from HD.
I live in the south. And mainly winter camp in FL or GA coast.
While renovating the camper, I replaced old insulation when project exposed it with R14..
Heats and cools great.
I love it. I hate propane!
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07-14-2016, 12:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paddle whisp
I've successfully renovated 7 airstreams to total electric. Installed a new converter inverter box. WFCO fuse and circuit box. Hot water heater that will work on 110. New a/c with heat strip. 10cf refrigerator from HD.
I live in the south. And mainly winter camp in FL or GA coast.
While renovating the camper, I replaced old insulation when project exposed it with R14..
Heats and cools great.
I love it. I hate propane!
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And you are referring to using shore power for the electric?
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07-14-2016, 12:29 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2003 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Pittsburgh
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13
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all electric
Some time ago, about 2005 I remeber hearing that Airstream built or was going to build a few electric motorhomes.........don't know what success they had as just about that time they quit building motorhomes.......might be some threads on it.........
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07-14-2016, 02:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Box Elder (formerly Long Island, NY)
, South Dakota
Join Date: May 2013
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An engineer on the Escapees HDT (Heavy Duty Truck) forum is doing just that. He has a Class 8, Volvo based HDT Super-C RV. Other that the diesel engine powering his rig, everything else will run off a 48VDC Lithium battery bank. Said bank can be recharged by the diesel engine when it's running, or the onboard diesel generator, or by shore power. Several HDT forumites are watching his progress with great interest.
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07-14-2016, 02:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2011 30' Flying Cloud
Greenback
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 294
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A nice wood stove could make it happen!
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07-15-2016, 10:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
[/I]Ever seen a trailer with all-electric heat in the fall and spring? Probably not . . . limited insulation in an AS . . .:
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AC with heat strip and a wood stove, right here
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07-15-2016, 10:34 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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electric wood?
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07-15-2016, 01:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
electric wood?
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Well, I suppose that's one way to start a fire ...
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