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Old 07-16-2018, 10:39 PM   #1
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30A Receptacle Melted Today

This was our third crisis this month so I guess they do come in threes!

When we unhooked this morning in Colorado, the 30A cord came out with a little something extra attached for the ride - one of the receptacle pins. The plastic inside the receptacle around that pin had completely melted away. There was also a nasty charred burn around the slot for that pin on the end of the cord.

It's been very hot this week and we've been running the A/C more than usual. The voltage to the trailer as measured by both a Kill-a-Watt and a pure sine wave UPS has been a fairly steady 116V, but we did have the breaker in the pedestal trip on one occasion when we absent-mindedly ran the microwave while the A/C was running.

We also have a SurgeGuard 30A 44260 on the cord, which showed two green lights for power status and the green light for active surge protection.

When we got to Salt Lake we picked up a new cord at Camping World and we're using the second receptacle on the front of the trailer until we can get to the local Airstream dealer tomorrow to pick up a new receptacle.

Anyone else seen this? Is there something else I should be diagnosing?
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Old 07-16-2018, 10:52 PM   #2
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All you need to change those receptacles out is a screwdriver, if you are so inclined!
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Old 07-16-2018, 10:56 PM   #3
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All you need to change those receptacles out is a screwdriver, if you are so inclined!
Oh, I'm definitely going to replace it myself - it's just finding one locally that'll be the issue. I thought I'd seen that Camping World sold the gray/silver Furrion type but all they had was a generic black thing. Can't sully the Airstream with that!

Hopefully Airstream of Salt Lake will have one to sell, and they won't gouge my eyes out on the price...
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:07 PM   #4
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This was our third crisis this month so I guess they do come in threes!

When we unhooked this morning in Colorado, the 30A cord came out with a little something extra attached for the ride - one of the receptacle pins. The plastic inside the receptacle around that pin had completely melted away. There was also a nasty charred burn around the slot for that pin on the end of the cord.

It's been very hot this week and we've been running the A/C more than usual. The voltage to the trailer as measured by both a Kill-a-Watt and a pure sine wave UPS has been a fairly steady 116V, but we did have the breaker in the pedestal trip on one occasion when we absent-mindedly ran the microwave while the A/C was running.

We also have a SurgeGuard 30A 44260 on the cord, which showed two green lights for power status and the green light for active surge protection.

When we got to Salt Lake we picked up a new cord at Camping World and we're using the second receptacle on the front of the trailer until we can get to the local Airstream dealer tomorrow to pick up a new receptacle.

Anyone else seen this? Is there something else I should be diagnosing?
I'd take the opportunity to swap out the OEM Furrion connection for a chrome model. If no one chimes in, pm me and i'll look for the link that i believe i saved..for when my time comes. Seems there was a recent post from a vintage tt that recently upgraded.
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Agreed, a screwdriver swap.
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:09 PM   #5
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Look for a local boat place like a west marine or something, they have replacements that work. I got my stainless Furrion ones from there.
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Old 07-17-2018, 03:35 AM   #6
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The previous owner of our trailer installed a SmartPlug. From my subsequent research this looks to be a much better connector and designed to prevent the issue you encountered.
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:38 AM   #7
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There was a factory recall on those plugs, did you have yours checked? Something to do with loose screws attaching the wires to the back of the plug.
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There was a factory recall on those plugs, did you have yours checked? Something to do with loose screws attaching the wires to the back of the plug.
Yup, that's what I was going to say. And it would cause that very problem.
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If I understand your situation correctly, the problem was between the campgrounds plug in and your power cord. This condition often occurs due to poor maintenance in the campground. Your plug goes in but there is a poor electrical connection and arcing occurs and generates heat that melts the receptacle and the cord.

I think there's not too much you can do other than install a new plug on the end of your cord or replace the entire cord.

When possible, use a 50A by 30A dogbone and plug into the 50A receptacle, the 50A receptacles seem to have much less wear and tear and even if they do, you only have a dogbone at risk.

Some folks have reported that they have had problems where the plug on their surge protector also got melted. Whether or not there is net benefit with a surge protector is a whole other discussion....
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Consider SmartPlug

I read your post to mean that your trailer's primary shore-power AC receptacle (inlet) failed. When you do replace it, we can strongly recommend installing a SmartPlug plug and receptacle. SmartPlug is a listed device (ETL). We installed the marine-grade 316 stainless steel inlet. Should take < 1 hr to change, taking extra care to ensure proper polarity.

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This was our third crisis this month so I guess they do come in threes!

When we unhooked this morning in Colorado, the 30A cord came out with a little something extra attached for the ride - one of the receptacle pins. The plastic inside the receptacle around that pin had completely melted away. There was also a nasty charred burn around the slot for that pin on the end of the cord.

It's been very hot this week and we've been running the A/C more than usual. The voltage to the trailer as measured by both a Kill-a-Watt and a pure sine wave UPS has been a fairly steady 116V, but we did have the breaker in the pedestal trip on one occasion when we absent-mindedly ran the microwave while the A/C was running.

We also have a SurgeGuard 30A 44260 on the cord, which showed two green lights for power status and the green light for active surge protection.

When we got to Salt Lake we picked up a new cord at Camping World and we're using the second receptacle on the front of the trailer until we can get to the local Airstream dealer tomorrow to pick up a new receptacle.

Anyone else seen this? Is there something else I should be diagnosing?
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I think that this is the result of folks plugging in without flipping off the breaker first. I mean turning it off, I imagine that OP did a lot of the former when they found their arc-welded plug!

I've been disagreed with (the horror! ) on the use of a circuit breaker as a switch, some would say that it wears out the breaker ahead of its time. In this case, the campground is looking at having a electrician swap out the receptacle, and our OP having to at least replace the plug, and maybe more. Swapping a breaker is an easy fix by comparison! Besides, the breaker belongs to the campground, we don't have to pay for it.

While we're on the subject, I recently installed a 30A circuit tester to my shore power plug. It's a Camco PowerDefender Circuit Analyzer With Integrated Surge Protection and Indicator Lights, 30 Amp Male to 30 Amp Female. Tells me the state of the power and is an easy replaceable link in the circuit.
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Old 07-17-2018, 09:57 AM   #13
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The electrician / engineer in me wants to know what other damage or problem down line caused this problem. You have a 4 yr. old trailer, something has loosened up to cause this issue or the recept in the side of the trailer has gotten a ton of use and wore out to cause the issue.

I do agree with the folks that said stop by a West Marine to get a replacement and also use some dielectric grease on the connections.
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That’s a great idea. Never thought of that 50to a 30. GREAT ��
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