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Old 04-19-2006, 11:22 PM   #1
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We just got our 73 31' Airstream last Sunday (Easter Sunday). At this point all we have had time to do is clean a little. My problem is that our windows have what I would describe as a white crusty type substance between the window units. Some are worse than others. Can anyone tell me if it is possible to separate this double window and clean the scale off without ruining it? I would love to clean all of the windows but I mainly am interested in cleaning the living area & kitchen area.

Any advise would be appreciated!! Thanks you.
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Old 04-20-2006, 12:27 AM   #2
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Unsure from post whether white stuff is between panes or at bottom of window. Either way, getting into space between double pane windows is not easy... Without specifics or pictures, it's hard to diagnose here now, but several members have had to drill out rivets or remove inner glass panes to clean off tint film or corrosion.. Not a simple or easy task... Aluminum exposed to moisture and in contact with other metals or salt will corrode, and corrosion (aluminum equivalent of rust on steel) is white powdery substance, as aluminum quits being metal and returns to oxide state...

It may be worth it to try compound search using search bar above looking for double and window and repair or replace or clean...

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Old 04-20-2006, 02:51 AM   #3
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Thanks John McG.
I will take some pictures to see if it will be easier to understand what our windows are like. My husband is skilled at do-it-yourself type projects at our home so I'm counting him being able to make repairs on our Airstream also. He isn't sure he want's to tackle the windows though.

I don't know if I should start a new post or just add to this one but we also need a manual for the 1973 31 ft. Airstream. He is going to have to work on the plumbing and electrical and doesn't want to start it until he has a manual. Any ideas?

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Old 04-20-2006, 09:15 AM   #4
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hi- you can find owners manuals, or the much more useful (for fixing stuff) service manuals on ebay, or from Secretarial Services in Sidney, Ohio, phone # 937-492-8885. Lots of info on fixing windows on this forum if you SEARCH. good luck!- tim
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The manuals are really valuable, and contain infomration unavailable elsewhere. Secretarial Services has best record of finding and delivering, if they don't have one I'd try searching profiles for other members who own same trailer here before hoping for luck on E-Bay..

Given tendency for people to leave manuals in trailer under couch or in places where it might get damp and moldy, it is real clever idea to take it to local copy shop and make a second "bonus" copy (double sided - heavy paper...) and keep that one in safe place in house just in case... Another lesson from the land of experience...

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Rosemary, welcome to the forum. Helen at Secretarial Services does have the 1973 service manual. It's the same manual for all trailer types of that year. I bought one from her a year or so ago. SHe had the owner's manual for the '73 Overlander, but we didn't buy it. I'm not sure if the owners manual for that year covers all models, or if they are specific to your trailer.

Helen is a very nice lady and will help you in any way she can. That goes for the people on this forum as well. Folks here are very much willing to help.

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Rosemary-

The manuals are really valuable, and contain infomration unavailable elsewhere. Secretarial Services has best record of finding and delivering, if they don't have one I'd try searching profiles for other members who own same trailer here before hoping for luck on E-Bay..

Given tendency for people to leave manuals in trailer under couch or in places where it might get damp and moldy, it is real clever idea to take it to local copy shop and make a second "bonus" copy (double sided - heavy paper...) and keep that one in safe place in house just in case... Another lesson from the land of experience...

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hey john, making that second copy is a great idea. my manual is half mildewed and rotted. i just ordered a manual for $60 right from airstream co. what is this secreterial svcs? are they cheaper? the one from airstream is a copy from the original. i will be making a copy now.

those manuals are worth their weight in gold for the do it yourselfer. from the full monte tom repackin' bearings.
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Crowbar, sounds like you got a deal. Secretarial services charged me $85. I would offer to make Rosemary a copy, but I'm afraid it wouldn't come out very well. In fact, Helen had to re-copy a couple of pages for me. It's almost like I got a copy of a copy, so to speak. Did you get a photocopy direct from Airstream Corp? How did you go about it? Who did you contact? I may want to go back and purchase the "owners" manual later. If I can save $25 on that, I'll go directly to Airstream.

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Airstream Inc is doing high quality reprints of most manuals. Go to the Airstream store at www.airstream.com look under books. If you don't see the manual you need email them as they are apparently running them in small batches.

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Rosemary-

The manuals are really valuable, and contain infomration unavailable elsewhere. Secretarial Services has best record of finding and delivering, if they don't have one I'd try searching profiles for other members who own same trailer here before hoping for luck on E-Bay..

Given tendency for people to leave manuals in trailer under couch or in places where it might get damp and moldy, it is real clever idea to take it to local copy shop and make a second "bonus" copy (double sided - heavy paper...) and keep that one in safe place in house just in case... Another lesson from the land of experience...

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i bought my manual from as store for 60 bucks and decided it was a good idea to get a second copy so if one gets ruined i would have a backup. the first one that came w/ trailor (original) is half mildewed. i went to kinkos and they quoted me $68 but because of the volume i would get a $10 discount. maybe buy 2! or copy at work.
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Crowbar, sounds like you got a deal. Secretarial services charged me $85. I would offer to make Rosemary a copy, but I'm afraid it wouldn't come out very well. In fact, Helen had to re-copy a couple of pages for me. It's almost like I got a copy of a copy, so to speak. Did you get a photocopy direct from Airstream Corp? How did you go about it? Who did you contact? I may want to go back and purchase the "owners" manual later. If I can save $25 on that, I'll go directly to Airstream.

Thanks for the help.

Jim
didn't see your reply until now. i bought my manual right from as, online from there store. they don't have all of the years but alot of them. i'm sure they "have" all of them it's just a matter of demand. this is a very fair price. i have some oldsmobile service manuals that i have paid 2x the money for ,although original, grease stained, ripped and torn.

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