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Old 03-24-2007, 09:58 AM   #15
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From what I've read it seems fair to say the WBCCI is the more formal group group compared to the Forum group. Since I'm a refugee from a bar-b-que pit, I think I'll try the forum group first. I really appreciate the replies to help a new person!
Well, I've been a starin' at yer post for sometime now. I can see where your comin' from. I hear ya. But I keep gettin' stuck on that word "formal."

In my experience, some of the folks in some of the local units around where I live are seriously deranged. They need help. Their idea of "formal" is wearing blue berets to a jammie party. They have rallys dedicated to pumpkin carving and ghost stories. Their campfires are all inclusive, big and full of song. Brush up on your Grateful Dead, Neil Young, Beatles, Dylan, James Taylor and get your guitar, harmonica and mandolin tuned. Don't worry about your singin' voice: volume and enthusiasm is all that counts.

Do yourself a favor though. Stop reading all this drivel and get out there camping! Check 'em all out and make up your mind that way. I happen to enjoy boondocking alone, camping with a friend, camping with two, camping with 25, camping with 125. They are all different and I find that variety is the spice of life.
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:06 AM   #16
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I'm a new member and don't wish to start an arguement for sure. From reading posts it seems some folks really like the WBCC and others prefer a group from this forum? Would some of you please help me understand what's going on. I've always said I wouldn't join a club that would have me as a member! Thanks for your help,
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Hammer - I'm kinda in the same situation as you. The WBCC has always had a noise in the air reputation with SOB's and many of the threads on the subject are negative to the WBCC. I find I like the forum group and have attended forum rallies that were, in my opinion, top notch. My first rally with mostly WBCC folks will be the Balloon fest in Albuquerque.

Huge rallies are not my thing but even these have good stuff like vendor displays and tech demos so I just don't know
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:31 AM   #17
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I'm a new member and don't wish to start an arguement for sure. From reading posts it seems some folks really like the WBCC and others prefer a group from this forum? Would some of you please help me understand what's going on. I've always said I wouldn't join a club that would have me as a member! Thanks for your help,
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I'm not a WBCCI member and have read many comments over the last 5-6 years about the organization. Since I wanted to be free to choose any activities I wanted to partake in and not be saddled with formalities, I jumped on the chance to meet a group in GA. for a mini rally of sorts. I believe this would have been the second with some of the members here. I thoroughly enjoyed meeting everyone and had a great time. I've been to three more of these since then, only missing one because of prior committments.

Each informal rally gets larger with more trailers, mohos and participants. There is fun for everyone, young and older, and the best part is that no one is forced to do anything! You choose to be involved in whatever tickles your fancy. This even makes you want to volunteer to help set up for some of the activities the people come up with. It's amazing. For instance, for the Hiawassee, GA. trip in April, one activity centers on tips for barbequing a 100 lb. pig. I love to barbeque at the house so I'm signed up for that. I'm hoping to learn something. One rally had a demonstration on brake replacement but I missed it.

I would hazzard to guess that if there was a local WBCCI unit which had activities and was informal then I would join. If the opportunity presents itself then I will keep an open mind and consider it. Until then, I'm having the time of my life with the forum rallys.
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Old 03-24-2007, 12:08 PM   #18
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First thought, davidz71, you attended the Texas State Vintage rally which was a WBCCI event with perhaps 10% forums members in attendance. It was planned, scheduled and executed entirely by WBCCI unit members with the forums members attending as our guests. Would you please care to comment as to what you thought about that rally, whether or not you enjoyed yourself, would you encourage other forums members to attend such a rally and what you would change for next year, if anything?

Second thought, I'd also encourage Hammer to attend both types of activities. The only edge I see the WBCCI as having is only valuable if you value that quality. The asset that attracts me to WBCCI is the fact that I get to more intimately know the people I am attending a rally with at a Unit function because for the most part the same people show up time and again. Why is that important, well I was recently diagnosed for about two months with cancer. The doctors later determined I didn't have it, but during those two months it wouldn't be possible to replicate all the calls, letters, emails, visits and prayers that were sent my way. I received far, far more support from my unit's members than from my church of 38 years. You can't understand it until it happens to you what that meant, but at a time like that when your whole world is turned upside down, such support means everything to some of us. At forum rallies, those attending may or may not ever be seen again. You just don't get the chance to estalish quite the sense of family though for some that might be a good thing. Its whatever is your cup of tea. The main thing is to get out in your Airstream and have fun.
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Old 03-24-2007, 12:22 PM   #19
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We stumbled into a Airstream rally w/our 310 years ago, all were sitting in
their Zip Dee chairs wearing their berets. They all waved until someone
noticed we had no numbers! All waves were withdrawn & eyes directed to
the ant activity.
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:38 PM   #20
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Response to Mike Leary. Well, I've never been to a International Rally, maybe they do such things, but I've never ever seen anyone sitting around at happy hour wearing their berets at any WBCCI function I've ever attended. NO ONE in our unit EVER wears a beret at anything except the new officers when they are installed each year out of respect for Wally Byam. That one day or night for an hur or two is all that even they wear them. That's it. At a regional rally, you'll see the officers wear berets at certain events such as opening and closing ceremonies, but again, no one else wears them at all. I am so sorry such a thing happened to you. I'm sure that there are differences between people from unit to unit and from one geographic area to another, but don't think for a moment that just because something is done a certain way one place that it is possible to infer that is the way it is everywhere.
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:49 PM   #21
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Jeez, lightenup....one more reason so few of us belong to WBCCI.
No, they were NOT wearing their berets, I was simply pointing out that the
group can get a little tight a..e.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:06 PM   #22
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First thought, davidz71, you attended the Texas State Vintage rally...
Sorry, that wasn't me even though I was born in raised in Texas.

I'm glad that your unit contacted you and helped you through a rough time when diagnosed with cancer. Has your doctor gotten over the marks you left around his neck from your hands?

I have found that a number of the same individuals have been at every one of the informal rallys I have been to. It sure is nice to see the same familiar faces along with new ones.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:42 PM   #23
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Here in the Metro Detroit area, the rallies I have attended have had many of the same participants whether a WBCCI rally open to buddies or a forums rally open to everyone with many of the same WBCCI members attending. Many still I have run into at the Tin Can Tourists event here. We are all Airstreamers in the same area wanting to rally. At that level in that circumstance there is little differential between the functions. It is the people that make the event, their personalities and their participation and involvement.

Much of what causes division is the way in which the beans get counted and the rating of the different beans. Most of this exists in office or on paper and might even be undectectable in the normal course of socializing.

What does stand out is that mileage, yours, may vary considerably. It's all about finding a group of people that share your passions and ideas and do not intrude with superfluous and embelishment that could detract from the experience.

We have different circles in different areas and each group has its own priorities, strengths and perhaps peculiarities. Each member contributes to the group dynamic and imputs upon the whole. If you are searching to spend your time with like minded people, it is only you that can do the research and the determination for yourself.

Much that is posted that seems to flag the casual observer as unrest is politics and club business. It is not a prerequisite to follow along to happily participate in unit functions. Go have fun. If it's your thing than dig in, if not or if you are new, are you going to take someone elses opinion as your own? Probably not the best choice.

I don't think this addresses any issues peculiar to other groups. You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you aren't ever going to please all of the people all of the time. That really is so very true.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:02 AM   #24
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[quote=wheel interested]...It is the people that make the event, their personalities and their participation and involvement.... It's all about finding a group of people that share your passions and ideas and do not intrude with superfluous and embelishment that could detract from the experience./quote]

I think those two sentences from wheel interested just about sums up my feelings.
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I agree with Wheel interested and davidz71, it is the people that make the difference and how you relate to each other.
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WCCI is a good organization, but not everyone wants to be organized. Its a way to go on inexpensive caravans with good leadership and see this country in a way that most never can or will. The routes are preplaned, sites are secured for you, places of interest are booked, meals are provided, not all meals but many of them. You get to travel with other Airstreamers and the commraderie and friendships you make will last a lifetime. You not only meet people from your area but from all over this country. At the region level you will meet and rally with people from a wide area including your home and at the local level you will meet and get to know people in a way your never dreamed of. This is my extended family and I care deeply about them and their needs. We help each other without being asked or told. You can't stand on the outside and see or realize these things, you must be involved. The club belongs to the membership and they are in control of the direction the club takes. They are the ones that vote to approve or disapprove actions. It is the most democratic organization I have been involved in and I am proud to me one of its members.
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I don't perceive friction between the forum group and the WBCCI. Many forum members are WBCCI members and vice/versa.

The friction that I see is within the WBCCI itself.

With the attempted name change last year and the attempt to allow non-airstream manufactured motor homes this year, well, that would do it.
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I don't perceive friction between the forum group and the WBCCI. Many forum members are WBCCI members and vice/versa.

The friction that I see is within the WBCCI itself.

With the attempted name change last year and the attempt to allow non-airstream manufactured motor homes this year, well, that would do it.

Although I am not politically inclined, I tend to agree with cosmotini, in addition I believe that the majority of forum members are fanatics about their Airstream (I see that as a good thing), while the minority of the WBCCI are fanatics about their club. It appears to me that the friction is internal to the WBCCI, where as the silent majority is bucking the minority to bring the club back to its original purpose, have fun caravaning and rallying as a group of individualists with the vision of freedom to explore in an AIRSTREAM. This forum is an active field of debate because it has all of the described types as members.

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